How many TVs will a 622 be good for?

[bertbarndoor]

Hi, this is probably a stupid question (I think I know the answer though).

I am thinking of getting a 622 HD DVR. I have two HD tvs in my house. Can I have the 622 output to both of them? Is there any disadvantage to doing this if it is possible? They are on different floors fairly far apart--will the remote work to control the 622 which will be on a different floor? Can the 622 output two different live signals? By this I mean, can each of the tuners be independently controlled so that person A is watching one live broadcast downstairs and person B is watching a different 'live' broadcast upstairs?

Finally, if the above isn't possible, I guess I could just get another HD PVR? Will Dish count that as 2 receivers or 4 receivers? I have another standard TV that will require a plain old vanilla receiver, but with two HD PVRS, that may count as 5? Then I will have to pay more? Also, this is for a no-phone line hookup, so I'm guessing the dreaded audit department would flag me and deny me in a heartbeat if I had 2 hd pvrs and 1 regular receiver all off-line?

Thanks for thoughts and opinions,

Rob

 

[JohnTomFerg]

Hi Rob,

I have the ViP622 as well and asked a similar question in an earlier thread (http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=70952). You can use the HDMI and the Component-Video cables simultaneous to run both TVs. Of course you have the expense of determining which one you want to use based on the distance of your drop. You may wish to consider the audio constraints though as well.

Both HD TVs will see the same data in this case.

Independent of that: the ViP can operated in two different modes. One will have the same information on both TV's and the other will have independent control on both TVS. BUT this seperate channel watching only works if you are using the COAX output for the 2nd TV. It will also impact the behavior of your remotes once you go to the latter mode.

This mode can be changed up if you prefer and reverted back, so you may consider dropping parrallel a coax line to the other TV. I do this with my second TV and use the CADTV channels as the transmit type which seems to give me a better picture on TV2 than the other choices.

If you are going to do this with 3 TVs - you indicate you have another set, you could always run all three in this manner (1 on Component, 1 on HDMI, 1 on COAX or split it and have COAX as an option to others).

Hope this helps!
-John

 

[ibleedblue]

The 622 will do everything you ask. However it will only supply HD to TV1. TV2 will be SD. Will they upgrade in the future to provide HD on TV1 and TV2??? Who knows. Errrrr....nevermind. See JohnTomFerg's post above.

And I have no idea how E* would want to bill you for that setup. I'm sorta new to the 622 and I don't know if E* has the ability to shut off the TV2 output so that you're not charged for it.

 

[JohnTomFerg]

The 622 will do everything you ask. However it will only supply HD to TV1. TV2 will be SD. Will they upgrade in the future to provide HD on TV1 and TV2??? Who knows. Errrrr....nevermind. See JohnTomFerg's post above.

And I have no idea how E* would want to bill you for that setup. I'm sorta new to the 622 and I don't know if E* has the ability to shut off the TV2 output so that you're not charged for it.

Yeah - I didn't really try to address that: I think they are going to charge you for having two tuners (in each ViP622)regardless of how you hook them up - as PiP is available if you only use it with 1 TV. Do you have that many people in the house that will be watching independent programming simulatiously? Because if you don't, TV2 could always go out to a distribution block for multiple Coax lines in the house, and you could just program additional UHF remotes for the TV2 signal (another thread on the side describes how to do that: http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=74129

If one remote isn't enough you could always consider IR distribution...but that's another added expense...however, since you are 'considering' 2 622s and 1 additional box, a single 622 + coax wire and distribution block + additiona UHF remotes (or IR distribution) would probably be less or no more than equivalent in initial cost.

 

[bhelms]

...I think they are going to charge you for having two tuners (in each ViP622)regardless of how you hook them up...

If you have a single 622 and it is continuously connected to a phone line then E* does not charge you the $5 per mo. "additional receiver fee". If you have additional receivers, they will each incur that fee. For any additional 2-tuner receivers the fee will be limited to a single additional receiver fee as long as that receiver is connected to the phone line...

 

[JohnTomFerg]

Thanks for the correction... the mysteries of Dish accounting are a black box I have not developed the courage to open.

 

[NOHDjunkie]

You can use the HDMI and the Component-Video cables simultaneous to run both TVs. Of course you have the expense of determining which one you want to use based on the distance of your drop. You may wish to consider the audio constraints though as well.

Both HD TVs will see the same data in this case.

I feed two HDTV's with my 622. one with a HDMI to M1DA cable to my projector and to my 51" in the bedroom with a 75' component + audio cable ($75) If you don't need 75' get a shorter one and save some bucks.

http://www.pacificcable.com/Picture_Page.asp?DataName=254-675IV

http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...cs_id=1023501&p_id=2178&seq=1&format=2&style=

http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...cs_id=1023501&p_id=2672&seq=1&format=2&style=

 

[JohnTomFerg]

I feed two HDTV's with my 622. one with a HDMI to M1DA cable to my projector and to my 51" in the bedroom with a 75' component + audio cable ($75) If you don't need 75' get a shorter one and save some bucks.

http://www.pacificcable.com/Picture_Page.asp?DataName=254-675IV

http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...cs_id=1023501&p_id=2178&seq=1&format=2&style=

http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...cs_id=1023501&p_id=2672&seq=1&format=2&style=

Great links for the cable prices... do you see any degredation over that length ? I would think 75' would be a bit painful. Nice setup as well on your My Stuff link - I suspected Infocuse hardware when I saw the M1DA cable note in your post.

 

[NOHDjunkie]

Great links for the cable prices... do you see any degredation over that length ? I would think 75' would be a bit painful. Nice setup as well on your My Stuff link - I suspected Infocuse hardware when I saw the M1DA cable note in your post.

Nope, the PQ is fantastic from the 75' cable. Can't tell the difference between the 622 feed from the theater (75' cables) from the 942 thats in the bedroom hooked up with 6' HDMI cable.

I also have the 942 feeding the theater with another 75' component+ audio cable so I can watch either reciever in both locations.

 

[osu1991]

I distribute tv1 HD the same way but I made all my cables out of rg6 with rca connectors on the wallplates before the sheetrock went up last fall.The longest is about 100' component run to the game room and I can't tell any difference in picture quality between the HDTV's.

 

[tarantella]

Hi Rob,

I have the ViP622 as well and asked a similar question in an earlier thread (http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=70952). You can use the HDMI and the Component-Video cables simultaneous to run both TVs. Of course you have the expense of determining which one you want to use based on the distance of your drop. You may wish to consider the audio constraints though as well.

Both HD TVs will see the same data in this case.

Independent of that: the ViP can operated in two different modes. One will have the same information on both TV's and the other will have independent control on both TVS. BUT this seperate channel watching only works if you are using the COAX output for the 2nd TV. It will also impact the behavior of your remotes once you go to the latter mode.

-John

Thanks for all the great info in this forum. One follow-up question, if I may: you mention connecting TV2 to the COAX output, but all I see is component outputs.

http://www.dishnetwork.com/downloads/pdf/product_brochures/ViP622_ProductSheet_HighRes.pdf


Unless that photo of the back of the 622 is outdated, I guess I would have to run a component line between rooms to use a second TV (as opposed to a coax connection?)

 

[bhelms]

The 622 supports TV2 via either the coax ("agile modulated coaxial output") or COMPOSITE TV2 connections. In the case of the coax, both TV1 and TV2 are modulated onto separate channels.

To view separate progams on TV2 the receiver must be in the "Dual" mode. To view TV1 programming on TV2, the receiver must be in the "Single" mode and set for "Shared View". In this latter case the programming for TV1 and TV2 is redundant and the second tuner can be used for the PIP feature on both TVs.

You can also run COMPONENT or HDMI TV1 connections to a second TV, but technically that would be a redundant TV1, not TV2.

 

[bytre]

Has anyone done a long run of HDMI?