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goaliebob99

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OK guys I need your help on this one.. I remember seeing it before here but I cant remember where..

I need the link and what page the ATSC Defines HDTV as 1920 * 1080I and 1280 x 720P

I also need the link that the FCC adopted these standards as defined by the ATSC and the Grand alliance.

Finding these links will be beneficial to you all.
 
http://www.atsc.org/fccdtv.html
"On December 24, 1996, the U.S. FCC adopted the major elements of the ATSC Digital Television (DTV) Standard, mandating its use for digital terrestrial television broadcasts in the U.S. (The FCC did not mandate use of the specific HDTV and SDTV video formats contained in the ATSC Standard, but these have been uniformly adopted on a voluntary basis by broadcasters and receiver manufacturers.)"

http://www.atsc.org/standards/practices/a_54a.pdf - I think that has the info you need regarding various resolutions.

hope that helps!
 
goaliebob99 said:
OK guys I need your help on this one.. I remember seeing it before here but I cant remember where..

I need the link and what page the ATSC Defines HDTV as 1920 * 1080I and 1280 x 720P

I also need the link that the FCC adopted these standards as defined by the ATSC and the Grand alliance.

Finding these links will be beneficial to you all.
I posted this previously...

The FCC references and incorporate the ATSC Standard for DTV. The ATSC defines HDTV as 1920x1080p, 1920x1080i, and 1280x720p. According to page 12 of the Recommended Practice: Guide to the Use of the ATSC Digital Television Standard (see below references), "The ATSC Standard enables transmission of HDTV pictures at several frame rates and one of two picture formats; these are listed in the top two lines of Table 5.1 . The ATSC Standard also enables the delivery digital sound in various formats."

References:
1. http://www.fcc.gov/oet/faqs/dtvfaqs.html
2. http://www.atsc.org/standards.html (HDTV definition page #12)
3. http://www.atsc.org/standards/practices/a_54a.pdf (Table 5.1 - page #24)

Table 5.1 (top two lines of ref #3):

Vertical Lines Pixels Aspect Ratio Picture Rate
1080 1920 16:9 60i, 30p, 24p
720 1280 16:9 60p, 30p, 24p

What D* and more recently E* are doing is stealing lines of horizontal resolution to create what is known as HD-Lite (1440x1080i, 1280x1080i), which does meet the ATSC standard and, in my opinion, does not look like HD.

I will be filing my FTC petition soon. They are free to call it Expanded, Exhanced, Better Resolution TV or whatever term they care to coin, but it IS NOT HD!
 
riffjim4069 said:
What D* and more recently E* are doing is stealing lines of horizontal resolution to create what is known as HD-Lite (1440x1080i, 1280x1080i), which does meet the ATSC standard and, in my opinion, does not look like HD.
Shouldn't this say "does not meet the ATSC standard"?

I'm glad to see this post, and I'm anxious to see your project Goliebob99.

If we have any chance of making a difference, we need to have a really good, defined argument that makes all of our points clear.

Scott
 
Here's the info in a nice table at Adelphia's website

riffjim4069 said:
I posted this previously...
They are free to call it Expanded, Exhanced, Better Resolution TV or whatever term they care to coin, but it IS NOT HD!

actually, they aren't!

They can't use ENHANCED either!

Enhanced can only be used for 1 of the 9 480p resolutions as defined by the ATSC. They can use their own marketing term if they want, but SDTV, EDTV and HDTV are OFF LIMITS.

https://www.adelphia.com/cable_entertainment/hdtv_details.cfm

It's a very nice little table there. Very clear.

Also, they are not allowed to compress the HDTV feeds they get from the networks. They must rebroadcast them as they get them. In fact, they are breaking the law by applying the heavy compression they use for ANY broadcast network, even the old SD signals they have been destroying for years.

There is no mandate, however, that they can not compress the non-broadcast HD feeds, but to call them HD, they must remain in one of the six defined formats.
 

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