True, but that's why people come here to SatelliteGuys. Alas, I believe Charlie dropped VOOM to save money and this is VOOM's grab to get back whatever they can. VOOM can ask for 2.5B or whatver pie-in-the-sky figure they wish, but I don't see them getting more than 500-600M even if they were to prove their case. We shall see...
And that's a big if. Lots of issues to sort out regarding the $100M/year on programming part of the agreement that Voom was to spend. Was it for 21 channels or 15? Does that number include certain overhead costs or not?
I just wish they could resolve this so we could get AMC and IFC in HD, plus maybe a few of the Voom channels still offered elsewhere.
Actually, it was an excellent reason to shut down. HD wasn't a novelty any more, it was becoming mainstream. VOOM as a product wasn't a deciding factor for customers making a provider choice. No providers would sink any money into VOOM programming if it wasn't going to bring them new business.Im still missing MonstersHD as well as Rave...
It would be nice if they resurfaced somehow.
Dont think it will ever happen though.
Cablevision shut them down too soon...
With HD exploding they way it is it made no sense to shut down.
I agree, but this was only the secondary reason that VOOM failed in my opinion. VOOM failed because of the horrible affiliation agreement that Dish Network signed with VOOM - they agreed to pay VOOM "super-premium" prices for HD in 2005, but by 2008 HD was no longer a premium service. In fact, according to the terms of the agreement DISH was supposed to be paying VOOM $5 per month for each and every HD customer (actually only 93% per the penetration requirement) by 2012, which is probably close to what DISH pays for the Starz or Showtime channels, and up to $6.43 per basic HD customer by 2019. With more than 11M estimated HD customer by the end of the contract (these esimates provided by VOOM), DISH would be paying VOOM roughly $70M per month or $840M per year to carry the VOOM HD channels. Yikes! Additionally, VOOM had no incentive to alter their 15-channel lineup (i.e., smaller programming bundles or a la carte) since DISH had already agreed to pay pay for all 15 HD channels for 15-years, and they would be required to offer similar terms to DISH. Needless to say, VOOM was not about to give-away their meal ticket.VOOM should have morphed what became HD demo channels down into a handfull of real HD channels with real schedules. A number of the channels could still be alive and thriving today if they would have done this instead they wanted to force everyone to carry all 15 of their channels. That ultimately was the real issue with VOOM that killed it.
Possibly...but not until this case, and the expected appeals process, have concluded.Scott, do you think there is any chance that what was MonstersHD or any other VOOM channels will ever resurface here in the U.S.?
I have no idea who is going to win this case other than to say that it makes absolutely no sense why VOOM would meet their obligations since VOOM was the favorable end of this 15-year agreement...and it makes perfect sense why DISH would want to terminate the agreement.And that's a big if. Lots of issues to sort out regarding the $100M/year on programming part of the agreement that Voom was to spend. Was it for 21 channels or 15? Does that number include certain overhead costs or not?
I just wish they could resolve this so we could get AMC and IFC in HD, plus maybe a few of the Voom channels still offered elsewhere.
I sure in the hell hope not. There is a reason why Dish dropped it.Voom on Directv ....
I sure in the hell hope not. There is a reason why Dish dropped it.
Agree...still miss stuff like the VOOM HD Sideshow: http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=25210&highlight=voom+sideshowThose who never had Voom will not understand what it offered either as an independent service or with Dish...
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