Twinhan 1020a loop out

[glen4cindy]

Right now, I have two STB's hooked up using loop out on 1 to feed the 2nd.

With the 1st in standby, the 2nd controls the dish just as if it was the only STB in the circuit. I never use them at the same time.

If I move the input from the 1st STB to the Twinhan and loop out to the 2nd and then the 3rd, can I still use my STB's as I do now?

I'm wanting to be able to have the Twinhan hooked up permanently, but, right now, loop out to my basement STB is the only way I can do it.

I still only want to use 1 device at a time. So, I guess what I am asking is will the Twinhan let the 2nd and 3rd STB's control the dish when no applications are running that have transponders tuned on the Twinhan?

I just want to know if anyone has experience with this before I start cutting cables and using connector ends. Thanks!

 

[linuxman]

I still only want to use 1 device at a time. So, I guess what I am asking is will the Twinhan let the 2nd and 3rd STB's control the dish when no applications are running that have transponders tuned on the Twinhan?

I have my Twinhan hooked directly to the GBox V3000. I have a Coolsat 5000 on the loop-out from the Twinhan, and a Traxis 3500 hooked to the loop-out of the Coolsat.

As long as the software turns off the LNB when you shut down the Twinhan, and only turn one or the other STB's on at a time, each will have complete control of the dish and polarity.

 

[glen4cindy]

I have my Twinhan hooked directly to the GBox V3000. I have a Coolsat 5000 on the loop-out from the Twinhan, and a Traxis 3500 hooked to the loop-out of the Coolsat.

As long as the software turns off the LNB when you shut down the Twinhan, and only turn one or the other STB's on at a time, each will have complete control of the dish and polarity.

Linuxman, in an earlier post, you mentioned having the LNB power turned off in the Traxis for fear of blowing out the card.

Have you found out that this isn't necessary?

I wanted to put my Twinhan FIRST in my receiver loop, looping to two more STB's. As I already said, I only use 1 at a time.

Thanks.

 

[linuxman]

Linuxman, in an earlier post, you mentioned having the LNB power turned off in the Traxis for fear of blowing out the card.

That was before someone else posted that you could have the LNB power on in the Traxis, just make sure it is in standby if using the Twinhan.

 

[linuxman]

Glen, I posted this in the C-Band section, and thought I would post it here for you and others benefit that don't read over there much.

I finally figured out why the Vertical C-Band channels wouldn't lock on the Traxis and Coolsat. I had the Verticals working at the dish yesterday afternoon on the Traxis, but wouldn't lock inside the house.

The problem was too many slaved connections.

While I was in town, I stopped by Skywalker and picked up two - 2 port "Diode Steering" power splitters, and one 4 port "Diode Steering" power splitter. I now have the 4 port hooked up and the Twinhan, Coolsat, and the Traxis run through that with very little signal loss on anything.

The splitter won't allow power from any port that is turned on pass back into any other port, but will allow all ports when turned on one at a time out to the LNB.

Just put any receiver you aren't using into standby, and fire up the next with full control of polarity and motor by each receiver.

 

[glen4cindy]

Where is Skywalker? Do they have T90's?

Thanks for the info.

 

[linuxman]

Where is Skywalker? Do they have T90's?

They are out in O'Fallon MO but only sell to dealers.

I used to buy computer equipment from them which listed me as a dealer, so I can still buy anything they sell, but they don't carry much in the way of C-Band stuff anymore.

Mostly cables and switches etc.

 

[glen4cindy]

Glen, I posted this in the C-Band section, and thought I would post it here for you and others benefit that don't read over there much.

I finally figured out why the Vertical C-Band channels wouldn't lock on the Traxis and Coolsat. I had the Verticals working at the dish yesterday afternoon on the Traxis, but wouldn't lock inside the house.

The problem was too many slaved connections.

While I was in town, I stopped by Skywalker and picked up two - 2 port "Diode Steering" power splitters, and one 4 port "Diode Steering" power splitter. I now have the 4 port hooked up and the Twinhan, Coolsat, and the Traxis run through that with very little signal loss on anything.

The splitter won't allow power from any port that is turned on pass back into any other port, but will allow all ports when turned on one at a time out to the LNB.

Just put any receiver you aren't using into standby, and fire up the next with full control of polarity and motor by each receiver.

Well, the loop out on the Twinhan did not perform like I expected. It would only pass signal if there was an application using it active on the PC. I tried putting it first in the loop, using the loop out to the lifetime NA but, looks like that isn't going to work.

So, I guess I'll wait until I have the t90 to get the Twinhan hooked up full time.

 

[linuxman]

It would only pass signal if there was an application using it active on the PC. I tried putting it first in the loop, using the loop out to the lifetime NA but, looks like that isn't going to work.

That is one of the great features of the Twinhan loop-out.

Once you shut down your application, your Lifetime NA can be powered on with power for the motor and LNBF and not interfere with the Twinhan.

 

[vfrjim]

Since this is a thread about the loopout of the 1020Aa, I figured that I would ask a question.

I NEVER looped a powered receiver to it without a DC block connected first. So, am I to understand that there is no problems sending a receiver that is powered to the loop out of the TH1020A? and if the Twinhan is not being used that I can control disecQ's motors, 22khz switches with a receiver? I never wanted to do damage to either, so I never tried it.

 

[glen4cindy]

That is one of the great features of the Twinhan loop-out.

Once you shut down your application, your Lifetime NA can be powered on with power for the motor and LNBF and not interfere with the Twinhan.

That's just it. With the application closed, the Lifetime NA just sat there, with ZERO signal and ZERO quality.

If I opened Twinhan DTV or TSReader, the picture poped in on the Lifetime NA which was on the loop out of the Twinhan.

Whenever I closed Twinhan DTV or TSReader, the Lifetime NA lost picture again, and signal levels went to ZERO.

 

[linuxman]

I NEVER looped a powered receiver to it without a DC block connected first. So, am I to understand that there is no problems sending a receiver that is powered to the loop out of the TH1020A? and if the Twinhan is not being used that I can control disecQ's motors, 22khz switches with a receiver? I never wanted to do damage to either, so I never tried it.

With the PC Application off, the Twinhan provides no power to the LNB, at that point it is just like any other receiver with a loop out that is in stand-by mode.

I had a Coolsat 5000 hooked to the loop-out of the Twinhan, and a Traxis 3500 hooked to the loop-out of the Coolsat. I could use any one of the three to power the LNBFs and move the dish. Just not at the same time.

I asked that question in a previous thread, and got an affirmative. I used it like that for a couple of weeks, but discovered there was too much signal loss slave after slave etc. That's why I chose the switch. All receivers are on an equal footing for signal.

Make sure you LNB power on in the setup for the Lifetime NA.

EDIT: See my Previous thread for the question that I asked.

 

[glen4cindy]

Yes, nothing has changed in the setup of the Classic NA.

I simply ran a new coax first to the Twinhan then to the Classic NA.

The NA would not see any signal at all unless I had TSReader, Twinhan DTV or My Theater open. Then, it would only see the same polarity.

So, right now, I have the Twinhan out of the loop. If I turn the rear power switch off on the NA, my Ultra will not see any signal. If I leave the rear power switch on, and put the NA in standby, the Ultra sees signal and controls the dish.

I'm thinking that without using ANY applications at all that address the Twinhan it is like turning that rear switch OFF. The computer is powered on, but, there is nothing at all using the Twinhan.

It is either that, or something is defective in my card that is preventing the loop out from working correctly. I was really hoping I could put it first in the loop because all of the other wiring is already in place for the other two.

But at any rate, I will be installing my T90 in about 6 weeks, maybe sooner. In 24 days, we leave on a two week vacation, so that my interfere with putting the T90 up, nice reason to put it off though! For the T90 setup, each receiver and the Twinhan will have it's own cable from seperate DiSEqC switches that will be fed from my 4x4's so the loop out will no longer be in the equation.