Well, I feel like an idiot for not seeing that in the review. : ) I have certainly been outta the loop on the new lnbs. I am still sticking stubbornly to my good ole C120 Primestar. I just like being different than having a FS 36 dish mounted to the motor because so many have that setup. I just wish I could find an 84E Primstar around here. They just didn't seem to use those in this region.