Will 2008 CES be the place Dish and Charlie make announcements??

[tigerfan33]

With everyone speculating on what Dish will do next. Will the 2008 CES be the place where Charlie will let the cat out of the bag on what Dish has been doing or plan on doing for the remainder of the year of 2008?? Hopefully he will tell us that as many as 20 hd nationals will be added along will a large number of local hd. I have heard people on here say that he usually waits until the Dish Team Summit to make such announcements. Looking back at this past years CES it seemed many people were disappointed with Dish. Everyone then was wanting RSN's and Dish was saying they were too expensive. In the Spring many of us thoguh were surprised with our rsn being lit. With many channels already in hd and more to come, it should be an interesting first half of 2008 with Dish.

 

[tigerfan33]

Sorry about the title. Suppose to read" Will 2008 CES be the place Dish and Charlie make announcements??"

 

[BigTimMN]

I think for the big push it really comes down to when they can get the new birds in orbit to give more room for channels, so until they get some launch dates, its all up in the air.

 

[Neutron]

Changed the title as requested.

 

[db2]

I remember last year at CES everyone was hoping/expecting them to make an announcement about the HD RSN's. Then, when they started taking questions from the panel Scott G asked about the RSN's and Charlie scoffed and said, "we aren't adding them right now because there isn't enough content."

So, unfortunately, my opinion is that this year at CES we'll hear about how they're adding HD Lil's, their DVR's are the best in the industry and nothing else.

 

[pulltab]

I have gone to CES the last 10 years, and IMHO, the Dish "booth" is pretty disjointed and not really organized. There are a smattering of new prototype receivers and equipment here and there, new programming offered, etc....but I don't remember seeing anything really "earthshaking" at CES.

The 622 rollout was pretty cool a couple of years ago, but again, IMHO, it wasn't really a big deal.

I think last year there was the 222 prototype and the ethernet/network thing....but all in really early beta stages.....

I am attending this year, and really don't expect anything to "happen".... D*'s booth last year wasn't as glitzy as early versions, but maybe with the HD rollout, that will not be the case this year.

I am really going to see the new HDTV stuff being shown by all of the manufacturers, especially the 103+ inch LCTV by Samsung.

 

[MikeD-C05]

I am betting it will be the same thing that CHarlie announced last May at team summit about the relaunch of DISH in mpeg 4 etc. He will most likely say that those plans have been pushed back due to the launch site problems. IF he doesn't and only talks about how great his dvr is , this will be where DISH will have "JUMPED the SHARk " so to speak. The company will never be the same again ,and people who want the most hd will churn to DIRECTV. He has been quiet for to long anyway. He better not waste his last opportunity to rectify his silence. The last quarter was bad enough with the amount of churn and I don't think he can afford the first quarter of 2008 to be as bad or even worse.

CHARLIE IS FIDDELING WHILE DISH CHURNS.

 

[tigerfan33]

Mike . I totally agree. Charlie has been quiet for too long. With the changes in the upink, and the annoucement back in a October retail chat about reclaiming bandwith to add more hd. It will happen but I would really like to know why Charlie seems to be keeping evrything close to the vest. The last q. was bad enough. It will keep getting worse each q. until he announces something or launches something. If I can see this,why can't Charlie. It goes back to. Does Charlie really care any more??

 

[db2]

IF he only talks about how great his dvr is , this will be where DISH will have "JUMPED the SHARk " so to speak.

Best comment ever.

 

[tigerfan33]

I am getting a very bad feeling about what will happen at the 2008 CES for Dish. Unless Scott knows something he is not sharing. Could be a big disappointment CES for us Dish subs.

 

[RandallA]

All Dish Network does at the CES show is present their future hardware plans and most of them are still in beta mode and a few years away. Don't get your hopes too high and you won't be dissapointed. My opinion of course.

 

[cosmo_kramer]

E* makes announcements at CES and Team Summits every year. Announcements don't show up in my EPG though.

 

[flyingsquirrel]

First off, more capacity is at least six months off, maybe more. And Directv is going to be there with another new satellite before Dish is going to get there. So things will get a whole lot worse vis-a-vis D* before they get any better

Since DISH is going to be weak in programming, I would not expect them to talk a whole lot about it, except to perhaps talk about Speed HD in relation to their NASCAR related marketing.

What I would expect is one or more of these:

1) Perhaps they will announce the implementation of software that will allow VIPs (222, 622, 722) to share programs on each other's hard drive across a single customer network. For me, this would be very worthwhile and would end my carping about programming.

2) Perhaps they will announce the rollout of software that will allow some legacy receivers (maybe back to the 500s) to be updated to decode MPEG4 SD. This is NOT an IMPOSSIBILITY. And if they could convert the whole system to MPEG4 without replacing all of the legacy recievers, this would also be a good thing.

3) Perhaps they will announce the integration of slingbox technology into 722s and 622s such that they could act as a Slingbox base.

4) Perhaps they will announce a deal with Netflx or Blockbuster or Voodoo of another online VOD service to have the DishComm 622s and 722s download movies directly from one of more of these services and be billed through Dish.

5) Maybe Dish will settle with TiVO?

There are a lot of possibilities on the Technology end of things. At their heart, the newer Recievers and DVRs are Unix boxes and integrating software for this kind of thing is theoretically easy.

On the other hand, Dish is in a Box from the programming end of things. I would not expect Dish to promote that fact.

 

[db2]

2) Perhaps they will announce the rollout of software that will allow some legacy receivers (maybe back to the 500s) to be updated to decode MPEG4 SD. This is NOT an IMPOSSIBILITY. And if they could convert the whole system to MPEG4 without replacing all of the legacy recievers, this would also be a good thing.

This one would be huge if it's possible.

 

[RandallA]

"2) Perhaps they will announce the rollout of software that will allow some legacy receivers (maybe back to the 500s) to be updated to decode MPEG4 SD. This is NOT an IMPOSSIBILITY. And if they could convert the whole system to MPEG4 without replacing all of the legacy recievers, this would also be a good thing."

That's is simply not possible. It's like saying that the SD receivers will be able to output HD. The chip that is inside the old receivers doesn't have the capability to decode MPEG4.

"3) Perhaps they will announce the integration of slingbox technology into 722s and 622s such that they could act as a Slingbox base.
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This one and number 1, yes I see this happening in this coming year.

 

[tigerfan33]

You would think Dish would like to show everyone at the CES it's plan for 2008. A update on how the "reclaiming bandwith" is going just to at least keep many subs from being restless. Something to get us just a little faith in Dish. The way the p.r. dept has been looking the last few months, I am not sure we can get our hopes for as little as that from Dish anymore.

 

[harveystern]

Tigerfan dish has always been the underdog, they are not even sold in the major box stores. So how come they have 14 million subs? They must be doing somthing right.

 

[havana]

Maybe they won't show up.

 

[DanLee]

Tigerfan dish has always been the underdog, they are not even sold in the major box stores. So how come they have 14 million subs? They must be doing somthing right.

I think you should change that to WERE doing something right. I switched just over a year ago due to D*'s lack of HD (sounds really stupid now) and better price for virtually the same programming. Since the switch, I can honestly say I have been paying more for less. I do not have a DVR, so at this point I could care less about new and improved receivers. I WANT HD PROGRAMMING, PERIOD!!! And I am not getting it. As much as I don't want to leave, because my experience with dish has been very good, I (and I think many others as well) cannot keep paying the same price as D* subs and get 20 fewer HD channels. That is why I went to dish in the first place.

I don't think calling Dish an underdog is adequate either. Directv has only 2 million more subs, although the difference will increase rapidly here soon. They are one of the top 5 satellite/cable providers in the US. They are doing just fine...that, in my mind is part of the problem.

 

[Phoenix1]

1) Perhaps they will announce the implementation of software that will allow VIPs (222, 622, 722) to share programs on each other's hard drive across a single customer network. For me, this would be very worthwhile and would end my carping about programming.

3) Perhaps they will announce the integration of slingbox technology into 722s and 622s such that they could act as a Slingbox base.

The capability to do this exists. I don't know how far along Dish is on developing this, but DirecTV and several of the cable providers are ready to roll this technology and are being blocked by lawsuits from the content providers.