You can get hd locals by themselves if you sub to the sd locals. They will charge you no basic programming fee for 6.00 and the hd enabeling fee for 6.00 . So your locals will be 5.99 +12.00 in fees= 17.99 . If you have the hd dvr it would be another 5.98 for the dvr fee=23.97. But no hd pack by itself any longer even if you own your receiver, if you are a new sub or new to hd.