Review: consumer receiver natively tuning 4:2:2

[comfortably_numb]

On the V9, the blind scan and sensitivity are the best of anything I've owned

The GTX is even better in this regard

Good summary, cyberham the only difference for me is I find myself using the Edision less and less. The GTX does just about everything I need.

 

[lost_mesa]

Does the V9 have the ability to edit/add PIDS? Either with the remote or with an editor? I haven't been able to find that option on mine.

 

[N5XZS]

I believe you can go to intstall and go to TP list and add or edit on it.

Once you get in TP list it will show the freq, bitrate and the H or V.

There are 4 color buttons listed at the bottom of the screen.

Hopes that helps!!

 

[comfortably_numb]

Does the V9 have the ability to edit/add PIDS? Either with the remote or with an editor? I haven't been able to find that option on mine.

cyberham did you ever get an editor to work with the V9 to edit PIDS?

 

[cyberham]

I believe you can go to intstall and go to TP list and add or edit on it.

Once you get in TP list it will show the freq, bitrate and the H or V.

There are 4 color buttons listed at the bottom of the screen.

Following this procedure, for a TP you can edit using the remote control the frequency, symbol rate, polarity, PLSN (Gold or Root), PLSN Number (0 to 524288), T2MI TP (No, T2MI, TLS), T2MI PID (0 to 8191). I don't see any way to edit the VPID or APID this way.

 

[cyberham]

cyberham did you ever get an editor to work with the V9 to edit PIDS?

I'm taking a fresh look at the PC-based editor for the V9 Prime now. I don't see a way to edit VPID or APID for a scanned channel. When you edit a channel, VPID and APID fields stay greyed out. So you can see the field contents but you can't change them. The only reason I use this editor is to arrange all the satellites in the order I prefer (from west to east) so when I rotate the dish, each satellite comes up logically.

Whereas on the V7S5X PC-based editor (different editor from the V9), I can edit the VPID and APID for a channel. I've never needed to do this.

 

[cyberham]

The GTX is even better in this regard

Good summary, cyberham the only difference for me is I find myself using the Edision less and less...

Tough to justify another receiver...but the real Christmas is coming. If I were to buy a new receiver today, I'd certainly look at the GTX.

 

[comfortably_numb]

I've never needed to do this.

Useful for adding audio channels (like Muzak).

 

[cyberham]

Useful for adding audio channels (like Muzak).

Right. I did add all the Mood Music on 101W.

Looking further at the V9 editor, I see you can "insert" a channel, then "edit" that channel including VPIDs and APIDs. Then you can "delete" a channel. Therefore, in this roundabout way, you can add or edit PIDs.

 

[lost_mesa]

From the orange channel functions, there is a PID editor using the remote. But I can't get the new PIDs to stick after doing a save. They always return to the original numbers. It's either non-functional, or there is some trick that I haven't figured out

 

[comfortably_numb]

lost_mesa :

From the main menu, go to Channel, TV Channel List, select a channel, press green button on the remote, then press OK. That brings up this screen which allows you to edit video and audio PIDS.

 

[lost_mesa]

Doesn't work for me.

 

[cyberham]

lost_mesa :...That brings up this screen which allows you to edit video and audio PIDS...

Works for me! Easier than using the editor. And I could save my changes. Maybe the box firmware version is important. My S/W version is V203.03.06.28.207 March 18, 2025.

Added: Doesn't work! I could save the new PID. But when I exited out to watch the channel and change channels, then the old PID returned.

Added2: From long ago, I learned if you want to change PIDs, you must also change its SID. Or the info gets written over as soon as you receive the signal. So try changing to any unused SID and maybe the new PID info will stick.

 

[comfortably_numb]

My S/W version is V203.03.06.28.207 March 18, 2025

Same.

 

[comfortably_numb]

Got it to work on radio channel. On 101 KU, 12000 V 20000, WRAL scans in on a blind scan, however it has no audio. Change VPID to 0, change APID to a Muzak/Mood APID, change PCR PID to 0, hit Save. The audio will then change when you exit the menus.

HOWEVER, if you change away from that channel and then back, it reverts to WRAL's old PIDS.

 

[cyberham]

...HOWEVER, if you change away from that channel and then back, it reverts to WRAL's old PIDS.

I can't find a way on the V9 to change to a new SID as well as edit the PIDs. From GSP microHD days, this was the solution to keep the new PID data saved.

 

[lost_mesa]

I tried it on WRAL. As soon as I hit save, I can see the pids on the right hand side of the screen change for a fraction of a second, but they immediately return to the original values. Like they are being overwritten by something. Not sure what software version I have. Where do I find that?

 

[comfortably_numb]

I tried it on WRAL. As soon as I hit save, I can see the pids on the right hand side of the screen change for a fraction of a second, but they immediately return to the original values. Like they are being overwritten by something. Not sure what software version I have. Where do I find that?

Make sure you're not tuned to WRAL when you make the edit. I selected the "Microspace61" channel then edited WRAL, then hit Exit and it asked me to "Save."

 

[primestar31]

I tried it on WRAL. As soon as I hit save, I can see the pids on the right hand side of the screen change for a fraction of a second, but they immediately return to the original values. Like they are being overwritten by something. Not sure what software version I have. Where do I find that?

Try this. I don't have a V9, but Google search gave me this:

To change the PIDs (Program Identification Numbers) on a GTmedia V9, you must enter the channel list and use the editing options
. You can also use a channel editor tool on a PC to modify the list, which can be more convenient for extensive changes.

Method 1: Using the remote control

1. Press the MENU button on your remote control.
2. Navigate to the Installation or Channel section and press OK.
3. Choose TV Channel List.
4. Once the channel list is open, highlight the channel you want to edit.
5. Press the Blue button on the remote to access the edit options.
6. Navigate to the Edit function, then press OK.
7. Find the options to edit the Video PID, Audio PID, and PCR PID for that channel.
8. Input the new PID values and save your changes.

Method 2: Using a PC editor (recommended)

1. Export your channel list. Insert a USB drive into your GTmedia V9. Go to the menu, find the USB Upgrade or Data Transfer section, and use the option to export the channel database to your USB stick.
2. Edit the file on your computer.
   • Find and download a channel editor tool compatible with GTmedia receivers, such as DreamEdit or a similar software.
   • Install the software and open the channel file you exported from your GTmedia box.
   • Find the channel you want to change in the list.
   • Right-click the channel and select the Edit option.
   • Manually enter the correct Video, Audio, and PCR PID information.
   • Save the changes to the file on your USB drive.
3. Import the edited channel list. Connect the USB stick back to your GTmedia V9.
4. Return to the USB Upgrade or Data Transfer menu and choose the option to import the channel database from the USB drive. This will overwrite the old list with your edited one.
5. Restart your receiver to apply the changes fully.