Caller ID Block

[faster68]

Due to the nature of my work, I have caller ID blocked on my phone. How will E handle calls in from an IRD with caller ID blocked?

 

[Mr Tony]

doesnt matter

They use ANI which verifies the number your box is calling from. Even is you block the call it still shows when the box calls out

lots of companies use ANI

 

[cj9788]

http://www.tech-faq.com/ani-automatic-number-identification.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_number_identification



"ANI serves a function similar to Caller-ID, but utilizes different underlying technology. In addition, although Caller-ID can be blocked by prefixing a call with *67, ANI is (usually) impossible to block."

 

[DishSubLA]

doesnt matter

They use ANI which verifies the number your box is calling from. Even is you block the call it still shows when the box calls out

lots of companies use ANI

Absolutely! These are general remarks, not intending for anyone in particular:

Many people are shocked to learn of this technology/loophole in the law. But, as usual, big business always has a big hand in crafting laws that favor them at the expense of consumer privacy, often with the threat of suing states or just leapfrogging to the U.S. Congress to trump the states.

I have no complaint of Dish having the ability to verify legitimacy of accounts using this technology the law allows; I do have a very big problem with many other companies that don't need such information but can legally capture it for their own exploitation.

 

[LER]

since the IRD calls in on an 800 number, which E* pays for, why shouldn't they know what Phone #'s are calling, and costing them minutes?

It's not a "loophole".

LER

 

[JohnL]

Absolutely! These are general remarks, not intending for anyone in particular:

Many people are shocked to learn of this technology/loophole in the law. But, as usual, big business always has a big hand in crafting laws that favor them at the expense of consumer privacy, often with the threat of suing states or just leapfrogging to the U.S. Congress to trump the states.

I have no complaint of Dish having the ability to verify legitimacy of accounts using this technology the law allows; I do have a very big problem with many other companies that don't need such information but can legally capture it for their own exploitation.

DishSub,

First off this is NOT about Congress caving to big business.

This is about FAIRNESS. Toll Free numbers are NOT toll free. Really the name is a misnomer, it should be called TOLL FORWARDING.

A company that has a "Toll Free" number pays for ALL OF THE LONG DISTANCE CHARGES. For this very reason those companies have every reason to be able to determine how much those calls are going to cost. Some Long Distance calls are more costly than others so if a company gets ANI data that company can tailor their phone system to answer more costly calls more quickly, to reduce costs and or to mitigate how much money their "TOLL FREE" service is going to cost month in and month out.

If you have a problem with this "loophole" that allows companies to know where and how much your call is going to cost them, then don't use 800 Numbers and call them on your DIME. BTW in most cases companies will give you NON "Toll Free" numbers to call if you do NOT wish to provide your Calls ANI information.

ANI information is only provided on "Toll Free Numbers".

John

 

[faster68]

So, what happens if one uses VOIP with an area code that is different than the actual service area? I'm about to switch my phone service to Vonage with an area code based in another state but I am not moving physically.

 

[Mr Tony]

it still shows up

and JohnL is right. Toll free numbers are toll free for the person calling it. The person/company that the TF number points to has to pay for the charges

 

[BrianB]

So, what happens if one uses VOIP with an area code that is different than the actual service area? I'm about to switch my phone service to Vonage with an area code based in another state but I am not moving physically.

As long as the phone number matches the one on the account, they won't care.