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Scott Greczkowski said:
In other words you are making stuff up and pulling stuff out your ass. ;)

But seriously now I think DISH will win this one FOR NOW, but when contracts are up I have a good feeling that their will be wording added to prevent automatic commercial skipping. (And that goes for all Satellite Companies not just DISH.)

I like the feature, but I can understand 100% why the networks would be upset. I would think that they should be working as partners not as enemies. But that's just me. :)
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No in other words I don't want to loose my job for spilling trade secrets on the web! HELL NO! If you want to talk privately.. feel free to call me.
 
dfergie said:
Horsecr*p, goailebob99 ...
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Not quite!

Slamminc11 said:
my thought exactly!
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Not really... You have to have all sides of the story and when you spoon fed one side you tend to not get the whole story. Think of it in North Korea terms, when you have been spoon fed lies, you tend to think of reality in a different light.
 
So what you're saying is that the networks are pissed at Dish because they are pulling a "GoogleTV" on them? Just putting it out there without giving them the heads up? Sorry guys, technology doesn't wait to innovate. Ask the music and film industries, your gravy train doesn't last forever. And lawsuit will not stop the inevitable.

EDIT: Man Les Moonves just makes me shake my head whenever he opens his mouth. They aren't "changing" the signal and black spotting their precious ads! And geez he must think the world revolves around him because I really doubt Dish planned the Team Summit that far ahead to make sure it was the week before the upfronts.
 
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K9SAT said:
...I really like dish, but the things they do just isnt right and is very anti industry when it comes to content distribution...
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As opposed to the anti viewer stuff that the networks pull on their own customers. Sounds like they are really big on dishing it out, and really small on taking it.

K9SAT said:
...They are pissed because dish didnt do it the right way and has a take it or leave it attitude...
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Again, as opposed to the take it or leave it attitude they have towards their own customers.

K9SAT said:
...What's sad is the coustomer will end up in the middle of this and the networks know's that. They dont want to play the bad guy in pulling all of their networks, but they have to stand up for their revinue streams...
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No, what's sad is the fact that the networks fail to see that the customer isn't in the middle... they're the bosses at the top. It's the networks who are in the middle. Anyone who's ever tried to make an honest living selling to people already understands this. But the network guys seem to think they are immune to this reality. They think as long as they keep putting things on our screen that are shiny, move fast, make a lot of noise, or are just plain loud & obnoxious... that we will decide that we can't live without them.

People expect corporations to jockey for position amongst themselves. But when they turn their guns on the customers, they have lost site of the end goal. Pulling all programming from customers who are using a device that they don't approve of will not be seen as "standing up to Dish". The viewers will view it as a full frontal assault against them, and rightly so.

Networks may not like it, but they better find a way to live with it, or they may find themselves unemployed.

Cheers
 
All I can say is I hope that this whole fiasco doesn't end up in dropped channels, disabled features, or price hikes (not holding my breath...)
 
eurosport said:
Excellent post Anony55!
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I'm quite the opposite, not sure I agree with a single, statement in that post.

People forget they are DISH's customer, not NBC's, FOX's, etc, and simply dismissing their content like its nothing shows you are clearly in the minority, something that is proven every night at prime time.

In the end we need to pick the service that provides what we want, and that's what most will do... not put networks somehow out of business.

We'll see what comes of all of this, but I expect it will get much uglier before it is resolved.


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Excellent post Anony55! i agree 100% with your statement, those people think that they can rule what technology we can use, they need to shut their mouths and live with it or loose our support and eat their channels with ground glass for breakfast!!!
 
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meStevo said:
I'm quite the opposite, not sure I agree with a single, statement in that post...
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That's OK, this is America and your view is as valid as anyone's. As customers, all of our POVs count... or at least, they should.

The thing is, I don't have to be right to be "right". All I have to do is exist and have that POV. True, I'm just one guy. But to quote Dr. Zaius (Planet of the Apes), where there's one, there's usually another and another and another.

Just like the music industry. It didn't take me seeing very many stories of housewives being fined $32,000 because of their teenagers illegally downloading music from the internet before I stopped buying CDs. Do I recognize the copyright holder's rights?... sure I do. But these guys have a history of being "heavy handed" and going over the top. Because they put enough money into buying the laws they wanted, they have the right to completely hose average people. And because I don't think it's fair, I have the right to not buy their product.

meStevo said:
...People forget they are DISH's customer, not NBC's, FOX's, etc, and simply dismissing their content like its nothing...
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Actually, we are the network's customers. Being Dish's customer also doesn't change that.

I didn't dismiss all of their content (even though much of it should be). In fact, I'm quite the NCIS/CSI/Person of Interest/Bluebloods fan. Everyone has their own list, that's what choice is about.

meStevo said:
...In the end we need to pick the service that provides what we want, and that's what most will do... not put networks somehow out of business...
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I didn't really call for putting them out of business. The point I was making was that they need to proceed carefully when deciding "who" they will attack. Suing Dish would be seen as a dispute between corporations. Pulling their channels would be an attack on the viewer.

A lot of us common type folk are getting pretty tired of all the heavy handed DRM stuff. The last couple of decades has brought a much more adversarial relationship between content owners & the public. Plenty of us have a pretty strong opinion about who caused that. We'll know who to "thank" when all the component ports are disabled, and HDMI ports require a DNA sample.

meStevo said:
...We'll see what comes of all of this, but I expect it will get much uglier before it is resolved.
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Of that, I'm sure.

Cheers
 
Scott, (very respectfully) I can't help if it was put in the wrong place. :D How is that a Direct TV vs Dish post? It's directly related here. It didn't ever occur to me someone would put it in that section. I thought I was dong the right thing by not making another thread, and instead finding the thread it is being discussed in.
 
"only the millionaries from networks are not fans of auto hop" or "all viewers from the networks are fans of auto hop, even when their providers doesn't have the feature!" that's what i'm getting after reading all the comments from those links
 
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