Detroit Tigers

[joedekock]

Sorry guys, but if A-Rod's wife has a say, (and I bet she does) there won't be any moves to Detroit.

No... she don't get a say. There are many more women just like her in A-Rod's world. That makes her expendable!

 

[Paul Wozniak]

As I think more about A-Rod coming here, the more the economics seem to get in the way. Assuming another 3M coming through the turnstiles, A-Rods potential $30M a year works out to about a $10 a fan. I have no idea what the profit/loss sheet for the Tigers looks like, but assuming that Tigers may be finally showing a profit the last 2 seasons, I can see where his salary could drastically alter the profit line. I have no idea what TV, concessions, etc... bring in. Or what their overhead is. Having a hard time seeing this happen. Maybe somebody else who knows more about the Tiger's financials than I do, can shed some light here.

 

[Jimbo]

As I think more about A-Rod coming here, the more the economics seem to get in the way. Assuming another 3M coming through the turnstiles, A-Rods potential $30M a year works out to about a $10 a fan. I have no idea what the profit/loss sheet for the Tigers looks like, but assuming that Tigers may be finally showing a profit the last 2 seasons, I can see where his salary could drastically alter the profit line. I have no idea what TV, concessions, etc... bring in. Or what their overhead is. Having a hard time seeing this happen. Maybe somebody else who knows more about the Tiger's financials than I do, can shed some light here.

Doesn't Illich still own one of the pizza joints ?
Start buying from his company if you want A-Rod .......:
Of course the cost of that pizza will be going up as well

Paul,
You mentioned $ 10 per fan ... I'll gladly give that

Jimbo

 

[joedekock]

Doesn't Illich still own one of the pizza joints ?
Start buying from his company if you want A-Rod .......:
Of course the cost of that pizza will be going up as well

Paul,
You mentioned $ 10 per fan ... I'll gladly give that

Jimbo

Yes, Illitch still owns the LIttle Ceasar's Pizza franchise he started 40 years ago.

He also own the Red Wings. It is widely speculated (and not been proven false), that in 2001, when Illitch unloaded Jeff Weaver and, Todd Jones, and Damion Easly and took nothing but cash in return for the Tigers, all of the sudden the Red Wings were paying big bucks to bring in Brett Hull, Dominick Hasak, and Luc Robitaille... but the Illitch said he did not have the money for players of that caliber for years. The rumor is perhaps he funded those big contracts for the big name Wings players that year through the unloading of big contracts from the Tigers roster.

I say, turn the tables... unload Hasek, and Chelios who they pay big bucks for in the Wings' organization, and fund A-Rod for the Tigers!

 

[Paul Wozniak]

Yes, Illitch still owns the LIttle Ceasar's Pizza franchise he started 40 years ago.

He also own the Red Wings. It is widely speculated (and not been proven false), that in 2001, when Illitch unloaded Jeff Weaver and, Todd Jones, and Damion Easly and took nothing but cash in return for the Tigers, all of the sudden the Red Wings were paying big bucks to bring in Brett Hull, Dominick Hasak, and Luc Robitaille... but the Illitch said he did not have the money for players of that caliber for years. The rumor is perhaps he funded those big contracts for the big name Wings players that year through the unloading of big contracts from the Tigers roster.

I say, turn the tables... unload Hasek, and Chelios who they pay big bucks for in the Wings' organization, and fund A-Rod for the Tigers!

The Wings had one of the highest payrolls in the NHL for most of Illitch's tenure as owner, until the salary cap.

 

[Jimbo]

Cameron

Looks like Cameron Maybin will be playing in the Arizona Fall League to get some more reps in the outfield this year, actually started earlier this week.

Also looks like A -Rod does not appear to be a practical solution at SS after all, Tigers have alot of younger contracts to address in the next few years and they would probably lose a few of them if they spent the money on A- Rod...
Then again, it all depends on what Mr. Illitch feels he wants to move the payroll too.

That said, Mariono Rivera woud be nice , and very possible seeing Torre is no longer in NY.

Jimbo

 

[Paul Wozniak]

Don't look for Mariono Rivera in a Tiger uniform anytime soon. I'm guesssing Todd Jones will be offered a one-year contract, splitting time with Zumaya as closer. Signing Rivera would only slow Zumaya's ascension to full time closer. I still believe A-Rod is a financial impossibility.

 

[Jimbo]

Don't look for Mariono Rivera in a Tiger uniform anytime soon. I'm guesssing Todd Jones will be offered a one-year contract, splitting time with Zumaya as closer. Signing Rivera would only slow Zumaya's ascension to full time closer. I still believe A-Rod is a financial impossibility.

If you have the potential to have Rivera (also take him away from the Yankees) and have Zoom, Zoom set up again, I think you DO it !
How many time did Jones look like he'd give out heart attacks for Christmas this year !
You don't have that problem with Rivera., Now , he may decide to stay and or go else where, but if he's looking to go somewhere that really needs a closer and an excellent chance to get there again, Detroit is the place to go, OR Cleveland ... Can you imagine him going to either team? that would definatly swing the balance of things in the AL.

A-Rod is a long shot, but a possibility, until he decides where he wants to go.
I think I hear that the Tigers have spoke with Guillen about who he would consider the best available in his opinion and he has given his list to them.

Jimbo

 

[sidekick]

Wanna bet she has that man by the short hairs?

No... she don't get a say. There are many more women just like her in A-Rod's world. That makes her expendable!

 

[DS0816]

Detroit Tigers should do their damnest to get Alex Rodriguez.

I think people are underestimating Rodriguez, and it's really about money more than everything else. Besides, this thing about the wife -- she can stay put in New York or wherever.

It's the money, dummy!

 

[Jimbo]

Detroit Tigers should do their damnest to get Alex Rodriguez.

I think people are underestimating Rodriguez, and it's really about money more than everything else. Besides, this thing about the wife -- she can stay put in New York or wherever.

It's the money, dummy!

And Detroit is not a Rainy as Seattle was or a HOT as Texas was...... The lights are not as bright in Detroit, but she has Casino's to hang out in if she wants bright lights and salon's.

She'll go where HE goes .....

Jimbo

 

[sidekick]

Wanna bet???

She'll go where HE goes .....

Jimbo

 

[Jimbo]

Wanna bet???

Sure ....
What would you like to bet ?

If A-Rod wants to stay, he'll stay, it's really that simple, if he wants to go elsewhere , he'll go .

Jimbo

 

[sidekick]

I think his psyche is heavily dependent on his wife.

 

[Jimbo]

I think his psyche is heavily dependent on his wife.

So when he has a bad night at the ball park, we can blame her ???

 

[Paul Wozniak]

As I previously mentioned (post #601), the Tigers acquired Edgar Renteria from Atlanta for two minor league players. I don't know who was traded, but I will be back when I have the names. This potentially fixes two problems for the Tigers, a SS with good legs, and with Guillen moving to first, it solves the power problem there. Sign me up for playoff tickets.

 

[Kevinw]

Braves trade SS Renteria to Tigers | ajc.com

Braves trade SS Renteria to Tigers
Two minor-league prospects acquired in deal for veteran infielder

By DAVID O'BRIEN
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 10/29/07

The Braves made the first big trade of the offseason Monday, sending veteran shortstop Edgar Renteria to the Detroit Tigers in exchange for a pair of top prospects including a center fielder and a hard-throwing pitcher who will compete for a rotation spot in 2007.

Rookie right-hander Jair Jurrjens went 3-1 with a 4.70 ERA in seven starts for Detroit after being promoted from Class AA Erie, where he gained notice by going 3-0 with an 0.78 ERA in his final three starts, with 24 strikeouts and only one walk in 23 innings.

Center fielder Gorkys Hernandez just turned 20 in September and was named the MVP of the Class A Midwest League after batting .293 with 25 doubles, four homers and 54 stolen bases in 124 games. He was voted the league's most exciting player and fastest baserunner by league managers.

The Braves also agreed to pay an undisclosed amount of cash to Detroit, which was aggressive in its pursuit of Renteria, who has been outstanding in two seasons for the Braves but was expendable because of the emergence of Cuban shortstop Yunel Escobar.

The trade opens a starting job for Escobar, who had an outstanding rookie season for the Braves, batting .326 with 25 doubles, five homers and a .385 on-base percentage in 94 games.

Renteria, 32, hit .332 with 30 doubles, 12 homers and 57 RBIs for the Braves in 124 games this season, and the five-time All-Star will be reunited in Detroit with manager Jim Leyland. Renteria had the game-ending hit for Leyland's 1997 Marlins in the seventh game of the World Series against Cleveland.


Renteria will make $9 million in 2008 and be eligible for free agency after the season.

"We appreciate the talent and professionalism that Edgar Renteria brought to us the last two years and we wish him the best in his career," Braves general manager Frank Wren said in a statement released by the team. "Today we were able to acquire two special players. We are extremely excited to be able to add a starting pitcher who we believe will compete for a spot in our rotation next spring, as well as an exciting and gifted outfielder who possesses tremendous speed for the future."

 

[Paul Wozniak]

Atlanta got quite a pair of prospects. Jurrjens was expected to via for a spot in next seasons starting rotation. A good trade for both teams. Thanks Kevin for the information,

 

[Jimbo]

Tigers Fans

Rumor of a possible trade with Minnesota.

Andrew Miller and Camron Maybin for Johan Santana.

Two top prospects in all of the majors to Minny for Johan.

Would you do it ?



ps, This will tell us what the Tigers REALLY think of these two, perticularly Maybin

Jimbo

edit: Also Todd Jones mentioned that if he could not play with Detroit next year, he would like to go closer to home....
Could we trade him to Atlanta for Jir Jirginnes ???

 

[DetFan]

Rumor of a possible trade with Minnesota.

Andrew Miller and Camron Maybin for Johan Santana.

Two top prospects in all of the majors to Minny for Johan.

Would you do it ?



ps, This will tell us what the Tigers REALLY think of these two, perticularly Maybin

Jimbo

edit: Also Todd Jones mentioned that if he could not play with Detroit next year, he would like to go closer to home....
Could we trade him to Atlanta for Jir Jirginnes ???

First of all where did you hear this?
Oh and hell yes i Would do this deal in a second.

Miller, Over Rated, and Johan is a huge upgrade, and that really goes without saying.

As for Maybin, it turns out Granderson is better then anyone ever expected, and you can get OF'er anywhere. Maybe may or may not be all he is cracked up to be..

This just says they want to win now..I know MN was not going to pay him his worth, they have two guys up there named Mauer, and Morneau they have to break the bank for.


I for one hope this is true, I just cant see Minny trading Johan to a central division rival.