Totally agreed, but OP already said he was miroring instead of MRV due to MRV cost.
Actually he didn't say that and the two are not mutually exclusive. I use a combination of both at both my D* home and my E* home both with whole home DVR systems.
Totally agreed, but OP already said he was miroring instead of MRV due to MRV cost.
Clearly, OP prefers the company of gentlemen.
Just get a powered HDMI splitter (like For only $29.29 each when QTY 50+ purchased - 1x2 HDMI® Amplifier Splitter | HDMI Powered & Passive 1 X 2 Splitters) and run a HDMI line to the 2nd TV assuming it's a normal modern TV.
If the 2nd TV is a old tube TV just take a old VCR and connect the yellow/white/red from the directv hd receiver to the vcr's input and connect the RF out to the 2nd tv.
As for the remote, get a RF DirecTV remote.
Unfortunately neither provides their content in a format that can be distributed over MoCA without paying a monthly fee for a receiver. In DIRECTV's case they haven't made the receiver available yet.Moca is even better and works fine on existing coax since that's what Dish and DirecTV use themselves.
This is a relatively poor assumption in the context of someone seeking to mirror....assuming it's a normal modern TV.
harshness said:Unfortunately neither provides their content in a format that can be distributed over MoCA without paying a monthly fee for a receiver. In DIRECTV's case they haven't made the receiver available yet.
In the example that you give DIRECTV also has the fatal flaw of forcing you to use an HD component converter as they can't seem to figure out how to make their GUI display on both HD and SD screens at the same time.
While the hardware part of these solutions work, they are relatively expensive and DIRECTV makes it surprisingly complicated to use effectively.
AGAIN, many if not most people have a vcr they can use as a modulator. If the box you want to mirror is a dvr, then it comes with an rf remote. Then the only extra cost would be composite and coaxial cables. Cheap!
This is a relatively poor assumption in the context of someone seeking to mirror.
You're carelessly ignoring the HD GUI issues.If he's just trying to share it to a tube TV all he needs to spend is $10
Given the certain complication of using HD receivers (we're talking about a WHDS environment here) with TVs that may not have line level inputs, I would hope not. Forcing someone to acquire another receiver and an RF modulator to go with is something that the marketroids may not have conceived of..Do you think they can't figure out how to use the GUI in SD and HD or more of a tool to keep people from mirroring to begin with and lease more receivers?
You're carelessly ignoring the HD GUI issues.
Its not even worth selling a mirror these days. Its easier just to tell the customer to spend the extra $6 per month for an additional receiver.
Not only do you have the RF Modulator issue, with so many customers getting HDTV's today, your doing the customer a dis-service connecting it up with SD.
You do a mirror the customer is going to spend close to $100 for what, to save $6 per month? Not worth it.
Are you new to DirecTV? If you are, did you research this before you decided to switch? I gather from your OP, that you were a Dish customer? I assume that you were used to the TV2 function on Dish? My point is that this is nothing new with DirecTV's equipment. The Hx and HRx series receivers have not had RF outputs since the beginning. They were never really designed to be used that way. In the past I used a HR21 that way, and had absolutely no problem. I just got a cheap Belkin RF modulator, and another remote for the location where I wanted to modulate the signal, and I was in business. I cant see why you are so upset if you did your research. Of course, if you didn't I guess it is a case of live and learn.
The original poster is completely correct about having to run a second line. And it really is no way to diplex the outgoing signal with the incoming satellite signal. It completely trashes multi room viewing capabilities. And make no mistake about it, as an installer myself very few people seem to have vcr's in their closets anymore as previously posted further upthread.
I believe the original reason for posting was more of a rant from his personal experience installing, and as a possible warning to other potential customers
My remote is RF and I mirror with a simple HDMI splitter, pretty easy IMHO. The OP is full of it.
Totally agreed, but OP already said he was miroring instead of MRV due to MRV cost. As far as i am concerned MRV is to be preferred over Mirroring. It is easier to Do, and 2nd TV is HD.
Costly? The HDMI splitter was under $30 at Monoprice, HDMI cable was under $10 and it works like a charm. Only need one receiver no MRV. Simple and done!!
I didn't see anything in the op that said he needed any particular length of cable, much less 60-70 feet. I also didn't see anything about the csrs misrepresenting how much it would, or wouldn't cost. He did claim it would cost $85 at a minimum to mirror, which is way off. At the least it would be the cost of some coax and connectors if you already have a vcr to use as a modulator and if you already have a dvr with an rf remote. The most would be for the cost of an HDMI cable of no certain length, which would probably add around $30, and the cost of an rf remote, about $20. The total would be about $50. I forgot the cost of some component cables, maybe $5.
Clearly, OP prefers the company of gentlemen.
Lesse, I was with Dish for ~4 years... I had 2 TV2s on the 622.. $6/month * 2 TVs = $12/month * 48 months == $576 saved (minus the ~$20 I spent on the extra remote) (and I had "whole home DVR" 5 years before DirectTV). Worth every penny in my opinion.
I'm sorry if our answer wasn't what you wanted to hear. I understand your point, but the fact is that mirroring isn't something that Directv puts much concern toward. Mirroring with Dish gets you an sd picture. That's a waste of time to me.
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