DISH Secures Long Term Cricket Rights

[Juan]

I can watch all the "crickets" i want on my back porch..why would I need to see them in HD?

 

[Juan]

no I dont see that being added yet. Here is the list they are adding

-Grass growing channel HD
-Paint drying channel HD
-World Fishing Network 2 HD
-Turtle Racing Channel HD
-The Patty Cake Channel HD (videos of kids playing patty cake)

and the one channel I know all Dish subs want...
OPN....The Oprah Porn Channel

so grass growing comes 1st....then maybe the paint drying channel next

prolly coming soon YouTube - Watching fake grass grow - in HD!

 

[JimWH]

This reply got moved to the wrong spot. -Baseball is more likely a derivitive of Rounders. Also I guess we can look forward to the International Curling championships as well.

 

[DodgerKing]

This is exactly what Dish does. They get something that costs what they consider a reasonable amount, and something that separates them from Direct or even Cable. They went for more National HD channels, more international channels, and this type of sports. Keep in mind, while you and I may not be the target of this, many of their international subscribers are.

It sure helps them grow in subs?

Seriously, is it sound business to go after something unpopular because it is cheap while ignoring one of the most popular events because it is not cheap? In the process loss subs for consecutive and multiple quarters

 

[DodgerKing]

It's amazing how much ignorance is displayed on this thread about cricket. It's the second most popular sport in the world and did you know your national pass time came from cricket? Do you think if only a few people were watching, Dish would bring these channels to lose money?

It maybe, but is that going to translate into more subs from a provider that is primarily US based in which cricket is not popular at all?

 

[DodgerKing]

Smart move by Dish. Offer the IPL bait, and pull in customers from Directv, and comcast. I guess they would have looked at the # of people who subscribed to the world cup package , and made this move.

BTW, baseball is boring compared to cricket.

Not according to most of those that actually pay to watch US based TV.

 

[KAB]

I never liked Jiminy when I was a kid. Who cares?

 

[JimWH]

BTW, I thought Buddy Holly was dead.

 

[Tampa8]

It sure helps them grow in subs?

Seriously, is it sound business to go after something unpopular because it is cheap while ignoring one of the most popular events because it is not cheap? In the process loss subs for consecutive and multiple quarters

"Keep in mind, while you and I may not be the target of this, many of their international subscribers are." You conveniently skipped that part of my post apparently.

That is why you don't run a highly profitable business, and Charlie does. You and I have no idea how much profit is involved with International programming. When Dish went after the international program audience, it was hailed by analysts as an untapped segment of the viewing audience. YOU may not like or even know what Cricket is, I can guarantee many or most international subscribers do. I may not know just how many want it, but I can guarantee you have no idea at all. Bottom line, when they add English programming it is as much to satisfy subs as it is to attract new ones. You don't want to satisfy current International Subs. Dish does. And yes, it may get them some subscribers.

 

[Juan]

"Keep in mind, while you and I may not be the target of this, many of their international subscribers are." You conveniently skipped that part of my post apparently.

That is why you don't run a highly profitable business, and Charlie does. You and I have no idea how much profit is involved with International programming. When Dish went after the international program audience, it was hailed by analysts as an untapped segment of the viewing audience. YOU may not like or even know what Cricket is, I can guarantee many or most international subscribers do. I may not know just how many want it, but I can guarantee you have no idea at all. Bottom line, when they add English programming it is as much to satisfy subs as it is to attract new ones. You don't want to satisfy current International Subs. Dish does. And yes, it may get them some subscribers.

i do agree with u..its much more profitable to have 1000 customers pay $100 vs 5000 customers pay $5.00 for a RSN (made up numbers)

 

[Tampa8]

It is more than that. We do not know what the cost ratio to dish is for the international programming, and what they can charge. Again, I do not profess to know, but it certainly could be a better ratio than English channels. Bottom line, Dish apparently feels this a service they can provide, afford, and make a profit from. It has nothing at all to do with any other sport they may or may not carry.

 

[whitewolf8214]

thats sad dish would rather get cricket rights instead of mlb network or when they could try and get nfl sunday ticket or split it with direct tv

 

[DodgerKing]

"Keep in mind, while you and I may not be the target of this, many of their international subscribers are." You conveniently skipped that part of my post apparently.

That is why you don't run a highly profitable business, and Charlie does. You and I have no idea how much profit is involved with International programming. When Dish went after the international program audience, it was hailed by analysts as an untapped segment of the viewing audience. YOU may not like or even know what Cricket is, I can guarantee many or most international subscribers do. I may not know just how many want it, but I can guarantee you have no idea at all. Bottom line, when they add English programming it is as much to satisfy subs as it is to attract new ones. You don't want to satisfy current International Subs. Dish does. And yes, it may get them some subscribers.

I would agree with you about international subs if Dish was offered in the Eastern Hemisphere. It is the east where people watch Cricket

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[Tampa8]

I don't follow... We are talking about subs in the US, who get international programming, probably because it is their heritage. Dish is offered throughout the US.

 

[duckydan]

DodgerKing means that if Dish were offered as a company in Europe and Asia where Cricket is popular it would make more sense. Offering it to US customers that subscribe to international packages (what we call international customers) isn't as profitable.

Well at least that's what I think he meant. I would post something about it but every weekend for the past month I've seen a group of kids (15 - 20) playing cricket on the lawn at a park not far from my house. It took me about ten minutes to figure out what they were even playing so I'm sure there is a market for this... just not sure it's enough to issue a press release for.

 

[Tampa8]

thats sad dish would rather get cricket rights instead of mlb network or when they could try and get nfl sunday ticket or split it with direct tv

You also miss the point. It is not sad or anything. It is a package Dish believes people want, that Dish feels they can afford and sell.

Did everyone miss, this is a premium add on package, the cost borne by those who subscribe? Tell your high priced RSN to do that, and you can get it on Dish almost immediately. Direct may end up getting back SNY, but it is taking a long time. Will they be next to stop paying ridicules prices? I think Direct has a much bigger stake in keeping SNY than Dish does as others have said. Yet, they certainly have not caved. I'm not suggesting they will not get it done, because of that importance, but it sure seems they have reached their limit also with the cost of RSN's. I really believe the era of the RSN, being in the package automatically is going to end if prices keep escalating.

 

[Juan]

You also miss the point. It is not sad or anything. It is a package Dish believes people want, that Dish feels they can afford and sell.

Did everyone miss, this is a premium add on package, the cost borne by those who subscribe? Tell your high priced RSN to do that, and you can get it on Dish. Direct may end up getting back SNY, but it is taking a long time. Will they be next to stop paying ridicules prices? I think Direct has a much bigger stake in keeping SNY than Dish does as others have said. Yet, they certainly have not caved. I'm not suggesting they will not get it done, because of that importance, but it sure seems they have reached their limit also with the cost of RSN's.

its a package with a high profit margin..the heck with what his customers want

 

[Tampa8]

DodgerKing means that if Dish were offered as a company in Europe and Asia where Cricket is popular it would make more sense. Offering it to US customers that subscribe to international packages (what we call international customers) isn't as profitable.

Well at least that's what I think he meant. I would post something about it but every weekend for the past month I've seen a group of kids (15 - 20) playing cricket on the lawn at a park not far from my house. It took me about ten minutes to figure out what they were even playing so I'm sure there is a market for this... just not sure it's enough to issue a press release for.

Ya, I do think that is what he meant. I think it has nothing to do with other countries however. They feel in the US, there are enough people, or current subscribers who want it. Just like those that think everything is against or related to PR viewing, this has nothing to do with anyone wanting MLB. It has everything to do with what a business feels it can afford and charge it's customers. Same process as when adding any channel.

 

[desifan]

Cricket coverage is available Over the Air for free or as part of basic programming the case of cable and satellite in countries where it is played. So dish offering these in eastern hemisphere and trying to profit from it is out of question. Only in the U.S can you nickel and dime every sports package ( League pass for example), and get away with it.
Dish is not doing charity work by doing this. They sure make a ton of money from international channels and international sports packages.
Will you pay $30 for 10 channels? I am paying this for an international package.

 

[Tampa8]

Cricket coverage is available Over the Air for free or as part of basic programming the case of cable and satellite in countries where it is played. So dish offering these in eastern hemisphere and trying to profit from it is out of question. Only in the U.S can you nickel and dime every sports package ( League pass for example), and get away with it.
Dish is not doing charity work by doing this. They sure make a ton of money from international channels and international sports packages.
Will you pay $30 for 10 channels? I am paying this for an international package.

The answer to that - move to where it is free. Just like those who complain they pay $6 for locals. Move to where you can get them for free. Your reasoning to me makes no sense. You are comparing a different country, with different values to the US. Wonder if you can get the RED SOX or Rays in the basic package in those countries? Wonder if you can get Sunday NFL for free on the local Channels? It is the opposite of what you are saying. We SHOULD be having the RSN's in a separate package, but instead it is in the package. I also wonder if the charge to carry sports in other countries is as high as it has become here.