Dish/Sling add 116,000 subs

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DISH Network reports third quarter 2020 financial results | Dish

The Investor Relations website contains information about Dish's business for stockholders, potential investors, and financial analysts.

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[Bruce]

DISH Network reports third quarter 2020 financial results | Dish

The Investor Relations website contains information about Dish's business for stockholders, potential investors, and financial analysts.

ir.dish.com

Gains were all Sling-

2nd Quarter 2020- The company closed the quarter with 11.27 Pay-TV subscriber, including 9.02 million DISH TV subscribers and 2.25 million SLING TV subscribers.

3rd Quarter- The company closed the quarter with 11.42 million pay-TV subscribers, including 8.96 million DISH TV subscribers and 2.46 million SLING TV subscribers.

So losses were not so bad for the Sat. side, only down 87,000 the only gains were to the very low profit of Sling.

Also, is having a low price unit like Sling really worth it, they have been around a couple years longer then higher priced You Tube TV, yet YTTV has 3 million customers at $65 a month.

 

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Also, is having a low price unit like Sling really worth it, they have been around a couple years longer then higher priced You Tube TV, yet YTTV has 3 million customers at $65 a month.

Depends on how much money YTTV is making on that $65. YTTV has more programming costs due to the number of channels they have. Is YTTV really makeing more than Sling is making on their subs?

 

[IcEWoLF]

I like the sling commercials

 

[ChadT41]

I thought Dish and SlingTV would be irrelevant. Someone(that's currently regretting their purchase of some sports channels) said Dish/SlingTV would become irrelevant. A year later and they are adding customers. Interesting. Why do people keep doubting Charlie when he bets. He literally started Dish because he was thrown out of a casino. Wtf.

 

[Yespage]

Recently swapped Sling for Philo. Sling is a good bargain, but Comcast and CBS are putting European soccer behind paywalls and there was no reason to pay for FS's and NBCSN any longer.

Somehow sports are costing more for less being broadcasted!

 

[ncted]

If I could get a decent OTA DVR solution to work, I would prefer to have Sling for "cable" channels, but I haven't been able to. My wife got used to YTTV in the mean time, so that is what we are sticking with until such time as it becomes too expensive. As it is, YTTV is costing me only as much as I used to pay for Dish's Welcome Pack for three TVs, and I am getting way more channels.

 

[Radioguy41]

If I could get a decent OTA DVR solution to work, I would prefer to have Sling for "cable" channels, but I haven't been able to.

Have you looked into the Homeworx HW-150PVR?

Homeworx HW-150PVR

 

[Bruce]

If I could get a decent OTA DVR solution to work, I would prefer to have Sling for "cable" channels, but I haven't been able to. My wife got used to YTTV in the mean time, so that is what we are sticking with until such time as it becomes too expensive.

Bought a Tablo to use with Sling more then a year ago, wife hated switching apps just to watch locals and back to Sling to watch Food Network or CNN, she prefers all her live/DVR shows under 1 app, then if she wants to watch Hulu she goes to that app, she also said she does not want a Traditional Service where she has to go to Video 1 to watch a Live TV service and then have to use a different remote.

She loves the simple one Roku Remote ( have a TCL 8 Series TV) that controls everything thanks to ARC, she would kill me if we went back to the old days of 8 remotes on the Coffee Table.

The biggest plus with streaming services, I use all my points with my credit cards to get gift cards ( like Google Play for YTTV or Netflix) so the services do not cost me anything.

Sent from my LML713DL using the SatelliteGuys app!

 

[PortlandChris]

If you have internet using Sling is going to blow your data caps from Comcast (and probably others). Sling still has the same sports channel issues DISH has.

I went to Comcast in mid-October after 13 years with DISH. I already had Comcast internet. I pay about $62 less with promo and about $42 less after promo (net bill to net bill) AND I get my RSNs.

 

[ncted]

Bought a Tablo to use with Sling more then a year ago, wife hated switching apps just to watch locals and back to Sling to watch Food Network or CNN, she prefers all her live/DVR shows under 1 app, then if she wants to watch Hulu she goes to that app, she also said she does not want a Traditional Service where she has to go to Video 1 to watch a Live TV service and then have to use a different remote.

She loves the simple one Roku Remote ( have a TCL 8 Series TV) that controls everything thanks to ARC, she would kill me if we went back to the old days of 8 remotes on the Coffee Table.

The biggest plus with streaming services, I use all my points with my credit cards to get gift cards ( like Google Play for YTTV or Netflix) so the services do not cost me anything.

Sent from my LML713DL using the SatelliteGuys app!

Tried the Tablo, AirTV, and Recast. The Recast had the best reception at my location, so we used it for a while, but the repack ruined that. My house is down in a hollow -- probably need a tower to get good signal these days. Also, the Recast had some odd behavior related to not recording certain shows on WRAL(NBC). I sold it on Craigslist for slightly less than I paid new.

My wife and I have definitely gotten used to only 1 remote for everything with the Firestick we primarily use. My biggest complaint about the Firestick is the 8GB of storage is limiting. Every couple of weeks or so I have to re-load one or more infrequently used apps that were automatically removed to free up space. I have an AppleTV 4K 32GB in the living room that I think is better (with an aftermarket remote and now that the tvOS 14 bugs have been largely fixed), but I hesitate to spend that much to buy 3 more for the rest of the house.

The biggest benefit I see to the streaming services is I can cancel at any time. Very few have any kind of contract.

 

[ncted]

If you have internet using Sling is going to blow your data caps from Comcast (and probably others). Sling still has the same sports channel issues DISH has.

I went to Comcast in mid-October after 13 years with DISH. I already had Comcast internet. I pay about $62 less with promo and about $42 less after promo (net bill to net bill) AND I get my RSNs.

Yeah, caps are ridiculous. Luckily I don't have one on my AT&T Fiber 1Gb connection. That said, we typically use less than 400GB per month in total, and we stream everything. A large family with kids would probably result in much more data usage though.

 

[PortlandChris]

Kids, 3 TVs, home schooling, internet radio, work from home, etc. It's ridiculous right now. All these Zoom school sessions, Zoom work sessions, etc.

Comcast owns the wires, and they win, unfortunately.

Yeah, caps are ridiculous. Luckily I don't have one on my AT&T Fiber 1Gb connection. That said, we typically use less than 400GB per month in total, and we stream everything. A large family with kids would probably result in much more data usage though.

 

[lparsons21]

Tried the Tablo, AirTV, and Recast. The Recast had the best reception at my location, so we used it for a while, but the repack ruined that. My house is down in a hollow -- probably need a tower to get good signal these days. Also, the Recast had some odd behavior related to not recording certain shows on WRAL(NBC). I sold it on Craigslist for slightly less than I paid new.

My wife and I have definitely gotten used to only 1 remote for everything with the Firestick we primarily use. My biggest complaint about the Firestick is the 8GB of storage is limiting. Every couple of weeks or so I have to re-load one or more infrequently used apps that were automatically removed to free up space. I have an AppleTV 4K 32GB in the living room that I think is better (with an aftermarket remote and now that the tvOS 14 bugs have been largely fixed), but I hesitate to spend that much to buy 3 more for the rest of the house.

The biggest benefit I see to the streaming services is I can cancel at any time. Very few have any kind of contract.

The FireTV Cube could be the right solution for you. About 1/2 the cost of an AppleTV4K but supports all the streaming apps as long as you don't mind sideloading Peacock and HBO Max.

I've got both the AirTV and Recast right now. Both work fine for me. Leaning to keeping the AirTV Anywhere since because it uses the SlingTV app, it works with virtually all the various streaming boxes. Recast's method of dealing with slightly weak signals is better than AirTV and the 2 week guide is certainly welcome, but it is locked into the FireTV devices.

 

[lparsons21]

Yeah, caps are ridiculous. Luckily I don't have one on my AT&T Fiber 1Gb connection. That said, we typically use less than 400GB per month in total, and we stream everything. A large family with kids would probably result in much more data usage though.

Avoiding 4K streams is a good way to not exceed data caps. 4K really eats that up in a hurry!

 

[ekilgus]

I have DSL internet with a download rate that varies between 9mg to around 11+mg which is fine for HD but 4k is out of the question. Also I have a monthly 250g cap which I would exceed every month if I relied solely on streaming. So for me it makes sense to use a satellite service.

 

[Bruce]

Kids, 3 TVs, home schooling, internet radio, work from home, etc. It's ridiculous right now. All these Zoom school sessions, Zoom work sessions, etc.

Comcast owns the wires, and they win, unfortunately.

I told you this before, xFi Advantage with Comcast, I believe $25 a month which includes the modem rental and no data caps, well worth it.

Have Charter now, also no data caps.

 

[ncted]

The FireTV Cube could be the right solution for you. About 1/2 the cost of an AppleTV4K but supports all the streaming apps as long as you don't mind sideloading Peacock and HBO Max.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I actually just returned to Fire TV Cubes which I got while they were on sale for $80. Both had annoying problems (which the Firestick 4k does not). One would require a reboot before I watched anything using BT headphones, otherwise playback was at 2x speed with no audio. The other one I could not get to work with my Samsung LN32A450 in the kitchen at all. Clearly it is not the same software as our Firesticks have. Sideloading isn't a huge obstacle, but I'd prefer not to have to do it. I also don't love all the advertising on the Amazon devices. It is fine on the Firesticks which I got on sale for $30-$35 each, but not as acceptable on an $80 device.

I probably should just get Apple TVs for the rest of our TVs, but they are pretty expensive, and there is no guarantee that every app we want to watch with show up on tvOS, although it seems like streaming apps that are on iOS are very likely to show up on tvOS as well.

 

[ncted]

Avoiding 4K streams is a good way to not exceed data caps. 4K really eats that up in a hurry!

I actually downgraded our Netflix subscription. Not to save bandwidth, but because my wife and I just cannot tell the difference, even on our 70" UHD TV. This is probably at least partly due to our aging eyes, but UHD in general has been a disappointment to us so far.

 

[charlesrshell]

I actually downgraded our Netflix subscription. Not to save bandwidth, but because my wife and I just cannot tell the difference, even on our 70" UHD TV. This is probably at least partly due to our aging eyes, but UHD in general has been a disappointment to us so far.

I feel the same way. Unless the 4K program has the HDR with it the 4K looks no better to me than the 1080P,