EchoStar Announces Financial Results

[Scott Greczkowski]

EchoStar Announces Financial Results for the Three and Twelve Months Ended December 31, 2024

 

[MikeD-C05]

Down to 5 million sat customers. About a million a year they lose. So in 5 years in 2030 or sooner, no more satellite business.

 

[AZ.]

Wonder how the 5g rollout is doing?

 

[Yespage]

The Wireless bottom line looks to be about the same as last year. $3.6 billion or so. That number needs to be going up. Sounds like churn decreased.

The most important stat says $4.6 billion cash on hands at the moment. So one or two years to make Boost boost its revenue.

 

[nelson61]

The Canadian lease at 72.5W has been extended
The Echostar 25 satellite is still scheduled for launch in 2026

 

[nelson61]

The complete year end SEC 10K file can be accessed here>

https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/1415404/000155837025001663/tmb-20241231x10k.htm

Lots of interesting information on wireless progress, debt, and the state of satellite tv

 

[nelson61]

Satellite TV subscriptions are down to where they were about 23 years ago, dropping at more or less a linear rate for the past 10 years.

 

[zippyfrog]

The Canadian lease at 72.5W has been extended
The Echostar 25 satellite is still scheduled for launch in 2026

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Dish currently has 3 different satellites at 110, about to be a 4th, at 110? But only one at 119?

 

[nelson61]

They have filed to move echostar 15 from 61.5w to 119w. Move should be complete by late summer

 

[Jim5506]

Satellite TV subscriptions are down to where they were about 23 years ago, dropping at more or less a linear rate for the past 10 years.

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In my opinion this says less about the services rendered by satellite companies than it says about the change in lifestyle of the next generation (my grown children). Two out of the three use YouTube and similar services instead of cable or satellite. The third has a basic satellite service but also subs to IP delivered programming. Even myself with AT200 on Dish, have a couple of subs to Paramount Plus and Peacock for occasionally viewed specialty programming. More choices than there were 20 years ago, different priorities.
We don't watch very many movies, truthfully most of what we watch is on OTA TV but we also have certain Dish programming choices that we would prefer not to do without or to try to find them switching TV inputs and searching through a scad of things we prefer not to see for what we want.

 

[dishdude]

In my opinion this says less about the services rendered by satellite companies than it says about the change in lifestyle of the next generation (my grown children). Two out of the three use YouTube and similar services instead of cable or satellite. The third has a basic satellite service but also subs to IP delivered programming. Even myself with AT200 on Dish, have a couple of subs to Paramount Plus and Peacock for occasionally viewed specialty programming. More choices than there were 20 years ago, different priorities.

The industry has changed, traditional cable and satellite are dying. All the good new programming is now going to the streaming apps leaving nothing but reruns on traditional TV. You can get reruns for free on Pluto.

 

[Jim5506]

The industry has changed, traditional cable and satellite are dying. All the good new programming is now going to the streaming apps leaving nothing but reruns on traditional TV. You can get reruns for free on Pluto.

Not exactly. Truthfully, of the new programming content, probably 75% of what we watch is on the big 4 networks, and mostly CBS. The programming on streaming sources is too sexy, raunchy, and vulgar for our taste.

 

[Bruce]

Not exactly. Truthfully, of the new programming content, probably 75% of what we watch is on the big 4 networks, and mostly CBS. The programming on streaming sources is too sexy, raunchy, and vulgar for our taste.

Except you are ignoring the fact that CBS programming is also on Paramount+, both On Demand and Live, a lot of it in 4K, the rest 1080P, which you cannot receive with Cable/Satellite.

Same for the other Network Programming, NBC on Peacock, ABC/FOX on Hulu.

Then you receive the streaming programs on top of that.

 

[NYDutch]

Not exactly. Truthfully, of the new programming content, probably 75% of what we watch is on the big 4 networks, and mostly CBS. The programming on streaming sources is too sexy, raunchy, and vulgar for our taste.

I don't know what you've been streaming, but other than cable-like YouTubeTV, we like watching the old westerns on the Grit channel on the Frndly app. We also watch the History Channel on Frndly, since YTTV doesn't carry it. We watch NHL hockey games on ESPN+ and movies on Netflix. Off hand, I wouldn't know what apps to install to see the "sexy, raunchy, and vulgar" shows you mentioned. Oh, and we watch our streaming apps for about half what we were paying Dish each month.

 

[N6BY]

I just checked and I can get AT120 (without locals) and a Hopper 2 Duo for $82.99 (price guaranteed for 2 years). Also saw something about a $200 gift card?

$82.99 is the same as what I am paying for YTTV. Will have to check out the channel differences.

I don't need locals because I have 3 TiVos.

 

[Bruce]

I just checked and I can get AT120 (without locals) and a Hopper 2 Duo for $82.99 (price guaranteed for 2 years). Also saw something about a $200 gift card?

$82.99 is the same as what I am paying for YTTV. Will have to check out the channel differences.

I don't need locals because I have 3 TiVos.

I do not know what channels you need/want.

But I find DirecTV's new $35 package to be a great bargain, which includes 40 Channels and the with ads versions of Hulu, Disney and soon, MAX.

DIRECTV STREAM Launches A $34.99 a Month TV Package With 40 TV Channels Along With Free Disney+, Hulu, & Max | Cord Cutters News

In a decisive break from the bloated cable bundles of yesteryear, DIRECTV announced today the launch of three new Genre Packs and two Mini-Pack Add-ons, expanding its satellite-free streaming options with a focus on customization and value. Building on the momentum of MySports, introduced in...

cordcuttersnews.com

 

[N6BY]

I do not know what channels you need/want.

But I find DirecTV's new $35 package to be a great bargain, which includes 40 Channels and the with ads versions of Hulu, Disney and soon, MAX.

DIRECTV STREAM Launches A $34.99 a Month TV Package With 40 TV Channels Along With Free Disney+, Hulu, & Max | Cord Cutters News

In a decisive break from the bloated cable bundles of yesteryear, DIRECTV announced today the launch of three new Genre Packs and two Mini-Pack Add-ons, expanding its satellite-free streaming options with a focus on customization and value. Building on the momentum of MySports, introduced in...

cordcuttersnews.com

Looks like it has all I would want.

Can you skip commercials after pausing playback for a while?

 

[Bruce]

Looks like it has all I would want.

Can you skip commercials after pausing playback for a while?

Yep, has a unlimited DVR also, giving it a trial currently.

And yes, I am amazed that DirecTV of all companies, has such a great value package.