EchoStar Announces Spectrum Sale and Commercial Agreement with SpaceX

[John2021]

Makes perfect sense to me.

For well of a decade Dish has been playing the cellular game with little to nothing to show for it up until the past few years. Now two real companies will be taking full advantage of what Charlie and co. could not do.

Dish Wireless was a failure, waste of time and resources and the spectrum will be put to much better use now that Dish Wireless and gone and is being decommissioned. Exactly 0 subscribers had access to Dish's DoD spectrum, in the next year or two well over 100 million people will have access to it, thanks to AT&T.

by the time charlie would have had his network built out. we would be in 6G or even 7G . i heard people say the handoff's from tower to tower sucked as well the phones dropped. and no support for LTE!!!

 

[NYDutch]

for us it's having all of our channels in one place and not having to fumble around with multiple apps to find our channels... how much will the package go up once the deals are gone. i am sure that dish will give more deals once the two years is up if you threaten to cancel since there losing subs left and right...

I turn our TV on and either scroll through Firestick's combined app listings to find something to watch or press a button and ask it to go to what I know I want to watch. Not a lot different than using the Dish remote, just a lot lower cost. I'm not getting any deals right now, so that's not a factor. And as an "Outdoor" account holder on Dish, I didn't get any deals there either.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

I still don't get why people are saying Boost is going away. Its not. They only sold off a small part of their spectrum.

They are working on some things with SpaceX and it would not surprise me to see Boost as the prefered carrier of SpaceX.

Only thing I know they are shutting down is their beta project known as Project Genesis. Everything else will continue to go and in some cases even expanding.

 

[EarDemon]

the one thing i like about AT&T. is it's truly unlimited high speed data!!! ( IF you pay for that plan!!! )

You mentioned this before in another thread a while back. You do realize both Verizon and T-Mobile have unlimited premium data on 2 out of 3 of their respective mainstream unlimited plans, right? And AT&T only has it on their top plan, the middle plan is 75 GB before you are subject to deprioritization.

AT&Ts top two unlimited plans are arguably the weakest of the three carriers

 

[EarDemon]

Dish Wireless is going away, the Boost brand will live.

Of course it's going away. Why would you think it wouldn't be? Out of the deployed spectrum, n71 is going to AT&T, n70 and n66 are going to Starlink. That is pretty much the entire deployed network. AT&T is getting the never been deployed n79.

What's left, some never deployed mmWave and other scraps.

To those that are in denial, riddle me this. How can you have a 5G network when you have sold off all of your deployed 5G assets?

Why are some Boost subscribers no longer able to connect to the native Dish Wireless network? Why I haven't I been able to connect to the native Dish Wireless network since I became a subscriber last week?

 

[dishdude]

I can't think of anything Dish could add to a Hopper 4 that would entice me to return to paying about double what I'm paying for streaming.

And this is ultimately Dish's biggest issue. The service is great, the equipment is great but there's a major lack of content and a lot of it is being shifted to streaming services.

 

[Poorsha]

I can't think of anything Dish could add to a Hopper 4 that would entice me to return to paying about double what I'm paying for streaming.

Same for me.

 

[Juan]

Dish Wireless is going away, the Boost brand will live.

Of course it's going away. Why would you think it wouldn't be? Out of the deployed spectrum, n71 is going to AT&T, n70 and n66 are going to Starlink. That is pretty much the entire deployed network. AT&T is getting the never been deployed n79.

What's left, some never deployed mmWave and other scraps.

To those that are in denial, riddle me this. How can you have a 5G network when you have sold off all of your deployed 5G assets?

Why are some Boost subscribers no longer able to connect to the native Dish Wireless network? Why I haven't I been able to connect to the native Dish Wireless network since I became a subscriber last week?

The same way charlie convinced subs dish was better than the Sunday ticket back in the day

 

[dweber]

Are you on native Dish Wireless or AT&T? The credit may go to AT&T and if not, now, then soon as the Boost Mobile network is history. It is going, going and soon will be nothing but a footnote.

It seems like the shut down is already beginning.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zgL1D5GTxI



View: https://www.reddit.com/r/BoostMobile/comments/1nauohd/native_network_unavailable_in_se_lower_mi/


Boost = AT&T. If you are in an area with good AT&T coverage then Boost will be fine. But there is no reason for anyone to be jealous or amazed by Boost's pricing, when if you want to go cheap, there are better plans out there from other MVNOs.

So far in my 5 days with Boost I have been on AT&T 100% of the time, to my knowledge. As a new customer, the pSIM they sent me, that I can't use is the black AT&T SIM. In all likelihood I will be candling my Boost subscription next week. No reason to keep it when it gives me nothing unique.

How would I tell what cellular service I am using. Roaming is shut off in my IPhone so I assumed it was using the Boost mobile network.


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[John2021]

You mentioned this before in another thread a while back. You do realize both Verizon and T-Mobile have unlimited premium data on 2 out of 3 of their respective mainstream unlimited plans, right? And AT&T only has it on their top plan, the middle plan is 75 GB before you are subject to deprioritization.

AT&Ts top two unlimited plans are arguably the weakest of the three carriers

yes i am aware of this just forgot to post it

 

[HipKat]

I still don't get why people are saying Boost is going away. Its not. They only sold off a small part of their spectrum.

They are working on some things with SpaceX and it would not surprise me to see Boost as the prefered carrier of SpaceX.

Only thing I know they are shutting down is their beta project known as Project Genesis. Everything else will continue to go and in some cases even expanding.

You can't tell them.

 

[John2021]

Correct. The 4K Joey does not have HDR. The Joey 4 does.

wich i find weird LOL. you figure the 4K box would have the ability to decode HDR

 

[EarDemon]

How would I tell what cellular service I am using. Roaming is shut off in my IPhone so I assumed it was using the Boost mobile network.


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AT&T (and T-Mobile) coverage are treated as an extension of the native network and is not considered roaming in a traditional sense.

There are numerous apps that you can use to determine what network and bands you are connected to as well as going into the service mode of the phone. I use Signal Check Pro and Network Cell Info. I see you are an iPhone and I don't know if those are are available, but if you open the dialer and type in *3001#12345#* then hit the green send button as if you were going to call that number the Field Test screen will open. You'll be able to see the carrier info with the band, the amount of bandwidth and signal strength info. I don't know if the carrier name will show the name of the actual network your are connected to or not. The carrier ID on my phone shows as Boost, but when opening the apps I mentioned, carrier is identified as AT&T and I'm clearly on AT&T.

Either way if you look at the band(s) you are connected to and the neighboring cells, it will be clear what network you are connected to.

Another way to tell would be to open a browser and go to whatismyip.com and see where it resolves to.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

wich i find weird LOL. you figure the 4K box would have the ability to decode HDR

The 4K Joey (not to be confused with the Joey 4) was released long before there was any HDR standards. It could just do raw 4K.

 

[Bruce]

The 4K Joey (not to be confused with the Joey 4) was released long before there was any HDR standards. It could just do raw 4K.

Actually not, the 4K Joey was released in 2015, HDR10 standards were the same year, Dolby Vision was in 2014, a year before the 4K Joey was released.

https://encyclopedia.pub/entry/32320#:~:text=2.2.&text=Dolby%20Vision%20is%20an%20end,of%20at%20least%201%2C000%20nits.

Dolby Vision is an end-to-end ecosystem for HDR video. It covers content creation, distribution and playback.It's a proprietary solution from Dolby Laboratories that emerged in 2014.It does use dynamic metadata and it's technically capable to represent luminance levels up to 10,000 nits. Dolby Vision require content creators's display to have a peak brightness of at least 1,000 nits

HDR10 Media Profile, more commonly known as HDR10, is an open HDR standard announced on 27 August 2015 by the Consumer Technology Association. It is the most wide spread of the HDR formats.

 

[Juan]

Actually not, the 4K Joey was released in 2015, HDR10 standards were the same year, Dolby Vision was in 2014, a year before the 4K Joey was released.

https://encyclopedia.pub/entry/32320#:~:text=2.2.&text=Dolby%20Vision%20is%20an%20end,of%20at%20least%201%2C000%20nits.

Dolby Vision is an end-to-end ecosystem for HDR video. It covers content creation, distribution and playback.It's a proprietary solution from Dolby Laboratories that emerged in 2014.It does use dynamic metadata and it's technically capable to represent luminance levels up to 10,000 nits. Dolby Vision require content creators's display to have a peak brightness of at least 1,000 nits

HDR10 Media Profile, more commonly known as HDR10, is an open HDR standard announced on 27 August 2015 by the Consumer Technology Association. It is the most wide spread of the HDR formats.

Released and implemented are 2 different things...

 

[John2021]

The 4K Joey (not to be confused with the Joey 4) was released long before there was any HDR standards. It could just do raw 4K.

well i demand a revamp of the 4K joey then I like the looks and size of it!! well that's why then

 

[John2021]

Well our install went smoothly. the tech was courteous and knowledgeable about our situation. He called giving us time of arrival i asked if he seen our notes on the acct he said that he did. we put the hopper in our media room and the joey in the bedroom and the hopper with sling in the den. everythings working awesome. the next step now is to replace the hopper with sling with another joey. but not deactivate the hopper with sling for the two years until the contracts over. I played with the hopper all night with the voice commands and and getting it to run our smart devices. I think it's great when you say start the races and nascar pops up . i like the fact that the caller id from my android phone shows up on the hopper runs the thermostat and lights also.. I just need to do a torcher test and find a show with a 100 episodes record them all then delete em to see if the hopper has any brain farts doing it!!! the genie 2 and the genie has always had brain farts deleting large recordings. even after exiting out of the list of your recordings the hard drive would still be playing catch up!!! The hopper will be a super bowl party game changer no more dealing with tuner conflits when the GF'S crap wants to record and it want's to change channels

 

[Tampa8]

Actually not, the 4K Joey was released in 2015, HDR10 standards were the same year, Dolby Vision was in 2014, a year before the 4K Joey was released.

https://encyclopedia.pub/entry/32320#:~:text=2.2.&text=Dolby%20Vision%20is%20an%20end,of%20at%20least%201%2C000%20nits.

Dolby Vision is an end-to-end ecosystem for HDR video. It covers content creation, distribution and playback.It's a proprietary solution from Dolby Laboratories that emerged in 2014.It does use dynamic metadata and it's technically capable to represent luminance levels up to 10,000 nits. Dolby Vision require content creators's display to have a peak brightness of at least 1,000 nits

HDR10 Media Profile, more commonly known as HDR10, is an open HDR standard announced on 27 August 2015 by the Consumer Technology Association. It is the most wide spread of the HDR formats.

No TV had it till 2016 models and only a few at that. When the 4K Joey was in planning stages there was no HDR it was a concept. When it was ready for release no way to know if HDR would actually take off I'm not even sure it was announced it would be in sets for 2016. Some manufacturers lost a alot of money on 3D thinking it was the next big thing.
Rather than delay production, and add greatly to costs both by spending time to revamp it, and not having it to sell or use - like most companies do they released it.

 

[John2021]

No TV had it till 2016 models and only a few at that. When the 4K Joey was in planning stages there was no HDR it was a concept. When it was ready for release no way to know if HDR would actually take off I'm not even sure it was announced it would be in sets for 2016. Some manufacturers lost a alot of money on 3D thinking it was the next big thing.
Rather than delay production, and add greatly to costs both by spending time to revamp it, and not having it to sell or use - like most companies do they released it.

i never liked 3D!!! I hated those stupid glasses you had to wear!!!! . Now that VR is coming out hopefully t.v. viewing will be better than it was