External Hard Drive Archive Bug Thread

[dfergie]

855 ... like the drive is full when I still have about 20 gigs to spare over what the Survivor takes (I looked and have a couple of previous seasons about the same size on the drive)

 

[long_time_DNC]

855 ... like the drive is full when I still have about 20 gigs to spare over what the Survivor takes (I looked and have a couple of previous seasons about the same size on the drive)

Were you able to get it to another drive and back? I've done well over 20 gigs at once with no issues, as I'm sure you have before too...

 

[dfergie]

Not yet, archiving some stuff off the drive with the Hauppauge to burn a BD...

 

[long_time_DNC]

Not yet, archiving some stuff off the drive with the Hauppauge to burn a BD...

Good idea.

 

[dfergie]

Weird it will transfer ( or least started to) I cleared off a couple things & made more room on the drive, no difference, I may end up putting on another drive...

 

[long_time_DNC]

Weird it will transfer ( or least started to) I cleared off a couple things & made more room on the drive, no difference, I may end up putting on another drive...

Wonder if something's going haywire with your drive interface?

 

[dfergie]

I'll try to send something else to it...

 

[long_time_DNC]

Be interesting to know the results...

Where's the thread (if there is one) for the latest 622 firmware update? I can't find it, if there is one...

 

[dfergie]

Its really recent... I tried piggybacking the Sri onto another send to EHDD... it sent the first but gave the error... I'll get with the DIRT team, Matt or Tony.

 

[long_time_DNC]

That's really weird...I sent two movies 7.8gb out to a drive today, no problems...

 

[120inna55]

...Where's the thread (if there is one) for the latest 622 firmware update? I can't find it, if there is one...

http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/256162-i-got-l634-one-my-622s.html

 

[KKlare]

855 ... like the drive is full when I still have about 20 gigs to spare over what the Survivor takes (I looked and have a couple of previous seasons about the same size on the drive)

You need to know how much is available as contiguous space, not how much is available as a sum of fragments. To transfer a single program the space must be available contiguously. Imagine trying to put a brick in a wall where the only empty spaces are 1/2 brick wide. It does not matter how many half spaces there are you cannot put a full brick in. The internal file system can handle linked fragments, the external cannot. You need to free up 2 or 3 half brick next to each other, but we have no way to know where they are. This is fixed on a "real" computer with a "defragger" or a beter file system.
The simplest way around is to copy out a number of files (of similar dates) and then try to add the new file. You may be able to put back all the other (smaller) pieces.
-Ken

 

[long_time_DNC]

http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/256162-i-got-l634-one-my-622s.html

Thanks!

 

[dfergie]

You need to know how much is available as contiguous space, not how much is available as a sum of fragments. To transfer a single program the space must be available contiguously. Imagine trying to put a brick in a wall where the only empty spaces are 1/2 brick wide. It does not matter how many half spaces there are you cannot put a full brick in. The internal file system can handle linked fragments, the external cannot. You need to free up 2 or 3 half brick next to each other, but we have no way to know where they are. This is fixed on a "real" computer with a "defragger" or a beter file system.
The simplest way around is to copy out a number of files (of similar dates) and then try to add the new file. You may be able to put back all the other (smaller) pieces.
-Ken

I started doing that last night, have room on another drive for some stuff...

 

[long_time_DNC]

That's why I tend to leave about 80gb free on my EHDs, so I have some contiguous space left for moving stuff around. I didn't think about that yesterday when we were discussing this...

 

[harshness]

The internal file system can handle linked fragments, the external cannot.

Hogwash!

EXT3 is used across the board.

 

[dfergie]

All good, moved it to the drive, then moved the other stuff back to it also...

 

[long_time_DNC]

All good, moved it to the drive, then moved the other stuff back to it also...

Good deal!

 

[KKlare]

When restoring files/recordings start with the largest (in MB) and work down to the smallest. This way you will have the least problems with gaps or fragments.

To harshness: It sure acts like the disk gets fragmented because you can have lots of space available and not be able to put a single large file on the EHD. I never seen that with the internal drive and it must handle fragments in recording live--it cannot be guaranteed to have sufficient contiguous space. Maybe Dish just has not set it up for fragments--lazy?
-Ken

Maybe for safety? Giving them the benefit of the doubt.

 

[castle rock kid]

castle rock kid

I have a VIP 622 with two WD ex hd, this morning neither one will work I can't watch recorded material, I can't send any new material and I can't send any material back to the VIP 622. any body have this problem?