first time set-up

[texasbrit]

Note while you are looking at the 103 signals you will lose all the guide data updates, because the receiver is expecting the guide from 119, unless you are using an SWM multiswitch.

 

[Rafaelccs]

Note while you are looking at the 103 signals you will lose all the guide data updates, because the receiver is expecting the guide from 119, unless you are using an SWM multiswitch.

As far as I know Guide downloads from Tps 2 and/or 10 out of 101W (DirecTV 4S /9S)

 

[vixens]

I thought it was one of the weak 101 tps, most likely an odd tp which just now got stronger in the last 20 min. and have reached 60 readings.

 

[Rafaelccs]

View attachment 90538 View attachment 90539 View attachment 90540
SL3 on six-foot off-set dish to feed 103W into the Zinwell 6x8 Ka/Ku switch

?Can't access those attachments.....

 

[vixens]

rain has stopped and I think I gonna attach another SL-3 lnb for 99W to see signal strength

 

[Rafaelccs]

Some days ago I explained:

DirecTV 8 @ 101 W (100.88 W) that carries all 16 odd transponders can't beam all 16 transponders at double power, most likely only 8 Tps. therefore the other 8 have weaker signal due to the fact they're beamed in single power mode...
if they don't manage the power the satellites lifespan will be lower than the expected 15 years...

You are not aligned to the 100.88 W orbital slot therefore you are receiving only the stongest transponders.....this happens only in fringe and also when you are using a larger antenna that have narrower beamwidth......

 

[vixens]

?Can't access those attachments.....

left: 103Wca co-shared/off center on 8 foot dish
right: 103Wca in center of 6 foot dish

 

[Rafaelccs]

Out of your pictures here's the main axis feed:



once you locate the lnbf at that feed axis, search for the signal and peak sliding up and down to see if you are at the peak of the focus, also you will have to realign azimuth and elevation, then take readings and compare where you achieve strongest levels....




Be sure you have located the feed you're using (just put any small aluminum foil or even probably a finger in front of the feed to be 100%) in the correct antenna's focus.....

?Good Luck!!!!

 

[vixens]

this is strange; I am doing always the same: Insert Image

 

[vixens]

 

[vixens]

 

[vixens]

left pic: 103Wca shared on 2.4m, lnb set to the side of focal point
right pic: 103Wca on 1.8m, lnb in center/focal point

 

[vixens]

got a few minutes in with 99W(s) . . had only time to hold the lnb in the air without attaching it.
The initial readings were excellent: 78 on tp1

 

[Rafaelccs]

I'm not sure what you mean? But I advice to be 100% sure you have the correct feed located in tha antennas focal point.
If you are not sure of your focal point mesure with the receive only feed struts of the other 1.8 m because the one you are using is tha antenna that has receive transmit kit.

after you have certainly located the feed in the focal point you will have to search the signal adjusting azimuth elevation and finally peak with the focus......other wise you aren't aiming the whole antennas gain to the desired target.....

 

[Rafaelccs]

Although you are still working on the signals, just in case you haven't bought the switch yet.....you have the option to buy regular Wide Band Multi switch, but you may also consider using SWM that might be easier on the distribution.
The final part of the puzzle is to convert legacy LNB to SWM and that is done by the SW8 and that needs a power inserter...you also will need your receiver to be compatible with SWM.
Probably special SWM splitters (they come 2, 4, and 8 ports) (depending on your needs: dual receivers, 4 receivers, etc)

Here's a list of compatible receivers I found compatible with SWM:

HR20-100 through HR20-700; HR21-100 through HR21-700; HR21 Pro (all models); HR22-100 through HR22-700; HR23-100 through HR23-700; HR24; HR34; THR22; R16-100 through R16-700; R22-100 through R22-700; R23-100 through R23-700; D12-100 through D12-700; D13-100 through D13-100.


To feed the SWM 8:

(Port 1) 18V SAT99W / 101W
(Port 2) 13V SAT99W / 101W
(Port 3) 18V/22kHz SAT 103W
(Port 4) 13V/22kHz SAT 103W
(Port 5) Flex Port 1 (Not used)
(Port 6) Flex Port 2 (Not used)

 

[vixens]

I'm not sure what you mean? But I advice to be 100% sure you have the correct feed located in tha antennas focal point.
If you are not sure of your focal point mesure with the receive only feed struts of the other 1.8 m because the one you are using is tha antenna that has receive transmit kit.

after you have certainly located the feed in the focal point you will have to search the signal adjusting azimuth elevation and finally peak with the focus......other wise you aren't aiming the whole antennas gain to the desired target.....

I just held the SL-3 to the side of the 101W in the position where I expected it. Following I got a good ca. 80 reading on the receiver.
Then the next rain came.

Raf, I you refer to the 1.8m dish: I know the focal point on that dish quite exactly. I used it for Bell satellite and know exactly where the LNB has to be placed.
I can nicely move the lnb up and down and also move it forward/backwards on a track easily.



I also tested a few switches/combiners i had laying around.
I ordered hopefully the right switches (Perfect Vision PVDP-2 sat/tv diplexers) to combine 101 and 99 to feed into the Zinwell wideband 6x8 Ku/Ka switch,
but they might take another week or 2 to arrive.

I don't know too much about switches. these I have all seem to be combiners for TV and Satellite.
They combine VHF/UHF on one side to SAT (DC pass) on the other.

I plugged the 103 feed into both sides. All switches left the103W signal only on the SAT side through. Shouldn't it be the other way that the Ka should pass the VHF/UHF side with the low frequency ?

 

[vixens]

Although you are still working on the signals, just in case you haven't bought the switch yet.....you have the option to buy regular Wide Band Multi switch, but you may also consider using SWM that might be easier on the distribution.
The final part of the puzzle is to convert legacy LNB to SWM and that is done by the SW8 and that needs a power inserter...you also will need your receiver to be compatible with SWM.
Probably special SWM splitters (they come 2, 4, and 8 ports) (depending on your needs: dual receivers, 4 receivers, etc)

Here's a list of compatible receivers I found compatible with SWM:

HR20-100 through HR20-700; HR21-100 through HR21-700; HR21 Pro (all models); HR22-100 through HR22-700; HR23-100 through HR23-700; HR24; HR34; THR22; R16-100 through R16-700; R22-100 through R22-700; R23-100 through R23-700; D12-100 through D12-700; D13-100 through D13-100.


To feed the SWM 8:

(Port 1) 18V SAT99W / 101W
(Port 2) 13V SAT99W / 101W
(Port 3) 18V/22kHz SAT 103W
(Port 4) 13V/22kHz SAT 103W
(Port 5) Flex Port 1 (Not used)
(Port 6) Flex Port 2 (Not used)

I have a HR122-700 and all switches and lnbs in non SWM.
So far I do not see any reason to switch to SWM. The Zinwell wideband 6x8 Ku/Ka non-SWM switch seems to work good. There is no signal loss from the dish to the end of the ca. 120 ft run. The receiver got a little slower once I had added the switch and the 103W.

 

[Rafaelccs]

What you bought should work...
Just saying that if you wanted to run a single wire in the house you could take the advantege of using SWM (Single Wire Multiswitch) with the use of a SWM-8
this might be good for people who are using dual tuner receivers and want to run few cables or single cables.....
The Legacy wideband needs to run double for each dual tuner.....

Regards.

 

[Rafaelccs]

I have a HR122-700 and all switches and lnbs in non SWM.

I couldn't find any reference for HR122-700 (is your model older?)

These are the models I found:

DirecTV Standard Definition (D12).
DirecTV HD Receiver (H10/H20/H21/H23/H24/H25).
DirecTV Plus DVR (R15/R16/R22).
DirecTV Plus HD-DVR (HR20/HR21/HR22/HR23/HR24).
DirecTV Pro HD-DVR (HR21-Pro).
The DirecTV "Genie" Home Media Center HD DVR (HR-34).
DirecTV DVR with TiVo Service (THR22).

 

[vixens]

I have already 2 long wires to the house. The readings at the house are equal to the readings near the dish.


These are the switches i tested with the 103W

Strangely only the SAT side left the 103 signal through.