H388 - Hopper 3 - 02/19/2025

[BatStang2000]

I received the H388 update overnight. Anyone know what was fixed / updated / enhanced ?

 

[brittanygarden]

The biggest callout in this release is enabling recording capability on Live Streaming Channels on the Hopper/Joeys. The Wally is not included in this.

Two things to note:

• You can record one at a time
• You cannot transfer these recordings to EHD

Other improvements are for general stability of the box.

 

[ewindowman]

Noticed last night watching showtime the picture looked amazing not sure if they did something with the update.

 

[cpdretired]

The biggest callout in this release is enabling recording capability on Live Streaming Channels on the Hopper/Joeys. The Wally is not included in this.

Two things to note:

• You can record one at a time
• You cannot transfer these recordings to EHD

Other improvements are for general stability of the box.

Comercial skip work.

 

[Pepper]

Nice additions.

Unfortunately, looks like all the problems I reported on the previous few releases are still there. Plus a couple more. As of today, the Play and Pause buttons on my 40.0 remotes are no longer functional.

Mrs. Pepper has told me this is the last straw for the Hopper Plus and I am to disconnect it and get her DVR back to how it used to be. I only hope the 40.0 remote is still functional with the H+ removed. Will find out shortly. The ability to cast facebook video from phone occasionally was nice but not worth all this extra hassle on a daily basis.

 

[Peter Parker]

Nice additions.

Unfortunately, looks like all the problems I reported on the previous few releases are still there. Plus a couple more. As of today, the Play and Pause buttons on my 40.0 remotes are no longer functional.

Mrs. Pepper has told me this is the last straw for the Hopper Plus and I am to disconnect it and get her DVR back to how it used to be. I only hope the 40.0 remote is still functional with the H+ removed. Will find out shortly. The ability to cast facebook video from phone occasionally was nice but not worth all this extra hassle on a daily basis.

I thought that there were always problems with using the 40.0 and the Hopper Plus. Am I misremembering this?

 

[Pepper]

I thought that there were always problems with using the 40.0 and the Hopper Plus. Am I misremembering this?

Yes, there were always a few problems but now there are more. As long as I've had the H+, only the red button of the four colored buttons works, though the colored indicators are still there on the screen implying that the green and yellow buttons should work, but they don't. Also the record button wouldn't do anything. All those functionalities had to be found as options after pressing the red button.

New with this week's releases is the Play and Pause buttons not working. They worked yesterday. I found this out while rewinding something and watching it just keep going back while I pounded on the play button. The dish developer team made me cuss again.

I did just discover that the remote mode reminder "Press SAT" ignoring the setting is H+ specific, it is working again after removing the H+.

 

[sklunk]

Nice additions.

Unfortunately, looks like all the problems I reported on the previous few releases are still there. Plus a couple more. As of today, the Play and Pause buttons on my 40.0 remotes are no longer functional.

Mrs. Pepper has told me this is the last straw for the Hopper Plus and I am to disconnect it and get her DVR back to how it used to be. I only hope the 40.0 remote is still functional with the H+ removed. Will find out shortly. The ability to cast facebook video from phone occasionally was nice but not worth all this extra hassle on a daily basis.

I have been using 40.0 remotes with an H3 (WITHOUT Plus) for a few months now without any problems ....

 

[KaptainRandom]

I expect, in time this streaming feed mode will replace sat feed mode for people with highspeed internet (urban). And leave sat feed mode for people without highspeed internet (rural). Using the same equipment for both feed modes.
Understanding, this is a work in progress, I'm not in a hurry to give up 16+ simultaneous tuners/timers.
Yes, I am spoiled.
I set timers without regard for conflicts or overlaps.
I watch mostly from local dvr to skip commercials and other hopper features.

BUt, I appreciate I can now record some of the classics on these streaming channels.

 

[Bobby]

I have been using 40.0 remotes with an H3 (WITHOUT Plus) for a few months now without any problems ....

There are no compatibility issues with the 40 remote with the standard Hopper 3. It's just the Hopper+ that introduces them.

 

[Pepper]

There are no compatibility issues with the 40 remote with the standard Hopper 3. It's just the Hopper+ that introduces them.

Yes, and those incompatibilities just get worse with each new iteration.

 

[n0qcu]

Yes, there were always a few problems but now there are more. As long as I've had the H+, only the red button of the four colored buttons works, though the colored indicators are still there on the screen implying that the green and yellow buttons should work, but they don't. Also the record button wouldn't do anything. All those functionalities had to be found as options after pressing the red button.

New with this week's releases is the Play and Pause buttons not working. They worked yesterday. I found this out while rewinding something and watching it just keep going back while I pounded on the play button. The dish developer team made me cuss again.

I did just discover that the remote mode reminder "Press SAT" ignoring the setting is H+ specific, it is working again after removing the H+.

I don't know if it's just me but I do have one 54 remote and since this new update using voice pretty much doesn't work. Which is the only reason I have the 54.

 

[Almighty1]

Josh.M and brittanygarden

Just forced updated 1 hour ago on the Hopper H3 on H387 to H3888 with Hopper Plus on P13301 to P13305.

Have the same issue(s) in H388 as mentioned with H387 and earlier after updating.

So there are still six major issues:
1) The bar chart shows the DVR % is visible which for me is 100% even though there is 120GB of free space left on the internal HDD. H388 still has the issue where 119GB-120GB free is considered 100% full on the HDD so the last 119GB-120GB can't be used at all. The fix is either make it available with the correct % remaining or treat the HDD as 120GB less in capacity so the % meter for what's used is correct.

2) The issue of skipping all the way to the beginning and end of the buffer and not anything between the beginning and end appears to not be fixed as it still does happen.

3) As seen in the photo below, we all know the buffers are 1 hour but as seen in the photo, the buffer appears to start from the point of when the Hopper started buffering the channel since it is 23 hours per the photo so the length of the buffer is wrong as well as the start time on the left which should never exceed 1hour or 60 minutes.

4) Another issue using the photo above as a example is that sometimes the video will freeze when either rewinding, forwarding, replaying, skipping and then what eventually happens is using the above photo for example, it will lost the entire buffer even though the 1:30AM to 12:30AM bar is there but the yellow will be empty except from the time when the live buffer shows video after unfreezing, basically it's similar to someone just changing to that channel except the bar will still show the 23 hours but without the yellow before the current buffering.

5) H383, H385, H386 and possibly earlier version(s) I may not be aware of has this issue where randomly, as we all know there is the 1 hour buffer on the current channel but let's assume the current time is a new program which was on for 10 minutes, it will not allow rewinding past the start of the current program as the buffer would be gone for anything before that part so one can only rewind back to the beginning of the current program and not the previous program even though the Hopper 3 was always tuned to the channel for the entire 1 hour or 60 minutes and ofcourse the bar would still appear like the photo above except the yellow would start from the time of the start of the current program and nothing before that.

6) H381, H382, H383, H385, H386, H387, H388 has the issue where the Remote Control Mode Reminder Notification is always on where it will display that the remote needs to be in SAT mode when on TV and AUX even when Settings -> Notifications -> Remote Control Mode Reminder is set to Off. This was originally discovered by Pepper.

As Pepper said, we would all appreciate it if these issue(s) would get reported to the developers and engineering.

 

[Almighty1]

The biggest callout in this release is enabling recording capability on Live Streaming Channels on the Hopper/Joeys. The Wally is not included in this.

Two things to note:

• You can record one at a time
• You cannot transfer these recordings to EHD

Other improvements are for general stability of the box.

Wouldn't the record one at a time cause another problem such as this:
1) Recording 1 on channel A records 15 minutes early and stops 30 minutes after the end time which will be fine so a show from 1:00AM-2:00AM will record from 12:45AM-2:30AM.
2) Recording 2 on channel A records 15 minutes early and stops 30 minutes after the end time which seems like it will be a problem if the show is from 2:00AM-3:00AM as it wants to record from 1:45AM-3:30AM except the 1:45AM-2:30AM part is being used by Recording 1.

 

[KaptainRandom]

Bedroom joey has multiple morning AutoTuner set for staggered morning news programs. We leave the tv on with the joey on standby/screensaver. At the 1st AutoTune the joey comes out of standby/screensaver and shows the morning news program/channel.

This has stopped working.
Joey stays in standby/screensaver.
AutoTune still works, changing station when joey not on standby/screensaver.

 

[Peter Parker]

There are no compatibility issues with the 40 remote with the standard Hopper 3. It's just the Hopper+ that introduces them.

Yes. As you may recall there were a few threads on this when the plus came out. BOTH Scott G and I reported that we knew people at Dish that made it clear that there was very little interest in making the plus compatible with the 40.

Scott if I am wrong about what your sources said please correct me.

 

[ppappas]

I expect, in time this streaming feed mode will replace sat feed mode for people with highspeed internet (urban). And leave sat feed mode for people without highspeed internet (rural). Using the same equipment for both feed modes.
Understanding, this is a work in progress, I'm not in a hurry to give up 16+ simultaneous tuners/timers.
Yes, I am spoiled.
I set timers without regard for conflicts or overlaps.
I watch mostly from local dvr to skip commercials and other hopper features.

BUt, I appreciate I can now record some of the classics on these streaming channels.

That would be unacceptable, it's my decision of how my capped internet data is used, not Dish. With a family of five, if our TV viewing were to be steaming only, I would blow through Comcast's monthly data cap in no time, and I refuse to pay an addition 30% premium for unlimited data. And since Comcast is the only ISP choice in my area, I also have to play the yearly "threaten to cancel" game with them to keep their annual price hikes to a minimum.