Peyton Manning

[salsadancer7]

I think the Win/Win situation in all of this would and could have been simple. A first name change, hello = "Coach" Manning.

He already runs the offensive, and no one is better at it then him, He can read a defense like no one else. It would have been the perfect situation for him and the Colts.

and not to mention Luck.

INSTANT OC!

 

[Rey]

he definitely has a future in coaching.

 

[cosmo_kramer]

he definitely has a future in coaching.

I always thought that his retirement from the field would lead him to broadcasting. He obviously has the personality and presence for it. And, there's a common thought that the best players rarely become successful coaches. Something to do with the idea that the better you get at something, the worse you get and the less patient you become at communicating to others on how to do it...

 

[Rey]

I always thought that his retirement from the field would lead him to broadcasting. He obviously has the personality and presence for it. And, there's a common thought that the best players rarely become successful coaches. Something to do with the idea that the better you get at something, the worse you get and the less patient you become at communicating to others on how to do it...

that is true and that's usually the case. peyton is a little different and reminds me of chad pennington who i also think has a future in coaching. they're both highly intelligent, patient and are great communicators. and let me be clear that the similarity between those two ends right there . every time chad was hurt here in miami the guy played the role of coach extremely well. peyton demonstrated that this season as well and even before he was hurt. question is do they want to deal with some of the annoyances that come with coaching. perhaps beginning as a QB's coach or an assistant to a OC would be a good start. going into broadcasting would be the way to go if he doesn't want to deal with that side of the game. there's a reason why cowher and chucky haven't come back to coaching.

 

[vodad]

The way I figure it, The colts next year without Manning all people are going to see is Andrew Luck. Sure a hopefully great player, but if he does not show some promise in the first few weeks then the press the Colts see goes way down, but throw Manning in as Coach and then the press stays at least all year, maybe 2-3 years to see how the combination works.

When you are low press NFL team you do not generate the kind of money that it takes to get the guys. But when you are a team that constantly makes the news then everyone wants to play for you. That is what the Colts need over the next 2-3 years to rebuild. I think you will understand what I am saying here.

 

[meStevo]

The way I figure it, The colts next year without Manning all people are going to see is Andrew Luck. Sure a hopefully great player, but if he does not show some promise in the first few weeks then the press the Colts see goes way down, but throw Manning in as Coach and then the press stays at least all year, maybe 2-3 years to see how the combination works.

When you are low press NFL team you do not generate the kind of money that it takes to get the guys. But when you are a team that constantly makes the news then everyone wants to play for you. That is what the Colts need over the next 2-3 years to rebuild. I think you will understand what I am saying here.

Most players care more about their paycheck than if their team makes the news. Good players simply make the news by playing well. There's only 32 teams and 17 weeks in a season, everyone gets plenty of airtime. Be successful on the field and it will tilt your way no matter the team.

 

[vurbano]

Only a FOOL drafts Andrew Luck with the #1 pick overall. AS I recall Stanford was a running team and Luck would run play action throwing to a few snail like recievers. There is ZERO evidence that he can play in the NFL at its frantic pace. If the colts had any sense they would build a pounding running attack around Trent Richardson who carries 5 men on his back every play by trading down a bit and possibly getting more linemen or defensive players. If you are out in the draft looking for another Manning, Brees or Brady and think its Mr Luck well then you probably play Lotto too.

 

[meStevo]

Only a FOOL drafts Andrew Luck with the #1 pick overall. AS I recall Stanford was a running team and Luck would run play action throwing to a few snail like recievers. There is ZERO evidence that he can play in the NFL at its frantic pace. If the colts had any sense they would build a pounding running attack around Trent Richardson who carries 5 men on his back every play by trading down a bit and possibly getting more linemen or defensive players. If you are out in the draft looking for another Manning, Brees or Brady and think its Mr Luck well then you probably play Lotto too.

We'll all be here in a couple years so you can say 'told you so' that 99% of the pundits were wrong.

 

[Jimbo]

Only a FOOL drafts Andrew Luck with the #1 pick overall. AS I recall Stanford was a running team and Luck would run play action throwing to a few snail like recievers. There is ZERO evidence that he can play in the NFL at its frantic pace. If the colts had any sense they would build a pounding running attack around Trent Richardson who carries 5 men on his back every play by trading down a bit and possibly getting more linemen or defensive players. If you are out in the draft looking for another Manning, Brees or Brady and think its Mr Luck well then you probably play Lotto too.

Lets see how many people Trent runs over in the NFL, he'll have a few, but it's not the SEC up there.

Also, Brady was nothing special when he came out of college, he was a 6th round pick, so you putting him in the discussion is not accurate.
I don't remember if Brees was a 1st rounder either.

You can't expect Luck to be a Star in week one or year one for that matter, but if he catches on like Newton and Dalton have, I think the Colts fans and management will be quite happy.

 

[Bodo Fenrirsson]

Whenever I hear or read someone say that a QB drafted in the first round has to start either immediately or almost immediately,I have to ask,"who made up THAT rule?" When you are ready to dump a bonifide future Hall of Fame & one of the best QB's who ever played the game,whether he can play or not next season,for what is really an unknown quantity(who really knows if Andrew Luck will be as good as Peyton Manning is/was?),throw out the baby,bath water,faucet,pipes,building,foundation,etc. so willy nilly "just because(fill in the blank)......" "The earth,she's a flat."

 

[Bodo Fenrirsson]

Wouldn't it be ironic if.....Drew Brees & the Saints cannot come to an agreement & Brees signs with say,the Miami Dolphins. Meanwhile,Jim Irsay gives in to all of the talking heads & releases Payton Manning,& then Peyton signs with the New Orleans Saints. Whatever happens afterwards is yet to be written.

 

[yaz96]

When you are ready to dump a bonifide future Hall of Fame & one of the best QB's who ever played the game,whether he can play or not next season,for what is really an unknown quantity(who really knows if Andrew Luck will be as good as Peyton Manning is/was?),throw out the baby,bath water,faucet,pipes,building,foundation,etc. so willy nilly "just because(fill in the blank)......" "The earth,she's a flat."

Huh??????????????//

 

[Bodo Fenrirsson]

Huh??????????????//

Flat Earthers. I'm equating the bloviating talking heads on TV who advocate getting rid of Peyton Manning at all costs,whether he's healthy or not,to people who still believe that the earth is flat.

 

[cosmo_kramer]

I think that a first overall pick should be a starting player for his team, no matter what position he plays.

Whenever I hear or read someone say that a QB drafted in the first round has to start either immediately or almost immediately,I have to ask,"who made up THAT rule?" When you are ready to dump a bonifide future Hall of Fame & one of the best blah blah blah....

Who said is was a rule?? If you're referring to my post, you should be able to see:

1). It's an opinion.
2). I said 'first overall pick'
3). I didn't limit it to QBs

 

[salsadancer7]

Just the mere fact that the Manning folks(Polians and the coaching staff) are gone and they are more or less gonna draft Luck just tells me that physically, Manning is no where near where he should be in his recovery and just about done. If he was fully recovered, they would have had no issues giving Manning his money, traded the #1 draft pick for a ton of picks and gotten Manning more weapons.

Maybe Rob Lowe was a prophet....

 

[cosmo_kramer]

Some details from Andrew Brandt on the ramifications of Manning's option being exercised by the Colts:

Option bonus: $28 million

Salaries (in millions):

2012: 7.4
2013: 8.4
2014: 9.4
2015: 10.4

Thus, in 2012 alone, if the option is exercised, Manning will make $35.4 million. As to those suggesting the Colts could exercise the option, putting them on the hook for $28 million, and then trade Manning, I would highly doubt that scenario. Irsay may be a bit eccentric, but he is not going to spend $28 million to then have another team receive that value. He does not want to trade Peyton Manning, and will certainly not do so after paying him $28 million!

Thus, if the option is exercised, on top of the $26.4 million Manning made in 2011, Manning's earnings for the two-year period of 2011-12 will be almost $62 million. He will be a Colt for the life of his career and be paid more than any player in the NFL for such career.

Manning + Luck = $50 million for 2012

If the Colts exercise the option and also select Luck with the top pick in the Draft, they will be committing over $50 million for the quarterback position in 2012. While Luck's overall compensation will "only" be approximately $23 million over four years, he will receive a signing bonus and salary of more than $15 million in the first year of his deal. That is an untenable amount of money for that position, especially when the Colts paid over $32 million at quarterback in 2011.

The Peyton Predicament: Part One - Forbes

John Clayton was on Mike&Mike this morning and said that Manning's nerve regeneration has not progressed as expected. There is apparently no way to tell when, if ever, it will so it may be an easy decision for the Colts to make on 3/8....

 

[Jimbo]

Whenever I hear or read someone say that a QB drafted in the first round has to start either immediately or almost immediately,I have to ask,"who made up THAT rule?" When you are ready to dump a bonifide future Hall of Fame & one of the best QB's who ever played the game,whether he can play or not next season,for what is really an unknown quantity(who really knows if Andrew Luck will be as good as Peyton Manning is/was?),throw out the baby,bath water,faucet,pipes,building,foundation,etc. so willy nilly "just because(fill in the blank)......" "The earth,she's a flat."

I think this all started when the owners started giving the QB's the LARGE amounts of money without any playing time to show it's deserved.

I know the Players are happier now that there is a Rookie Wage Scale.

 

[vurbano]

Lets see how many people Trent runs over in the NFL, he'll have a few, but it's not the SEC up there.

Also, Brady was nothing special when he came out of college, he was a 6th round pick, so you putting him in the discussion is not accurate.
I don't remember if Brees was a 1st rounder either.

You can't expect Luck to be a Star in week one or year one for that matter, but if he catches on like Newton and Dalton have, I think the Colts fans and management will be quite happy.

That really went over your head. Brady was the 199th pick in the draft and luck will be no Tom Brady or manning, ever. Wasting a number one pick on such a long shot as the Qb position is like throwing your future away

 

[Jimbo]

That really went over your head. Brady was the 199th pick in the draft and luck will be no Tom Brady or manning, ever. Wasting a number one pick on such a long shot as the Qb position is like throwing your future away

A team picks a QB with the 1st or 2nd pick EVERY YEAR ...

No one is saying that Luck will be Tom Brady, or Manning, but it's hardly a sure thing that he won't be.

You could say the same thing back when Joe Montana was at the top of his game, no one will be Joe Montana, then you had Manning and Brady come along, so ya it does happen.

This thing goes in cycles.
I'm not saying that Luck will be that guy, but you can't say that he won't be either.

 

[HD MM]

Only a FOOL drafts Andrew Luck with the #1 pick overall. AS I recall Stanford was a running team and Luck would run play action throwing to a few snail like recievers. There is ZERO evidence that he can play in the NFL at its frantic pace. If the colts had any sense they would build a pounding running attack around Trent Richardson who carries 5 men on his back every play by trading down a bit and possibly getting more linemen or defensive players. If you are out in the draft looking for another Manning, Brees or Brady and think its Mr Luck well then you probably play Lotto too.

This isn't the 1950's anymore. Franchises aren't built around running backs, they're built around QB's.

Case and point: Take a look at some of the top RB's in the league and their overall impact or lack there of to their teams: (ie. MJD and Adrian Peterson). Now take a look at some of the top QB's and their impact on their teams (ie. Tom Brady and Aaron Rogers). Hmmm. Like I said. It's a QB league now. Franchises are built around them. Welcome to the 2000's.