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What size though? 13 Inch? Could be a real small size at that price. If plasma gets that cheap then wouldn't that cause the prices of the other types of televisions to drop in price as well? I dont see any decent sized plasmas making that big of a price drop to below $1,000 by the end of the year.
 
I seriously doubt that the 42 inch plasma would drop that much by the end of the year. The most I see it going down to is maybe a 500-1000 price drop unless they came out with a new type that was cheaper to make. Even a regular more bulky projection television that size is going for around 1000 right now.
 
ED plasmas are approaching $1500 right now. Walmart has a new HD 42" for 2k.

At the rate things are going the 42" ED sets should be close to 1k (off brands named probably closer to 1.5k).

LCDs are dropping also next month BenQ is supposed to have a 1920x1080i resolution 37" set selling under $2k.
 
I honestly think for people that really want a home theater, an ED set is a waste of their money and I am not sure that Wal-Mart would be the best place to be shopping for the best quality & feature rich sets. I mean really, if you are going to shell out $1k for a small low end ED flat panel, why not pop another $300 -$500 and buy a quality 55" - 60" HD RPTV? If you have to have a flat panel just wait till good ones hit your price range instead of buying junk. You will be happier in the long run IMHO.
 
The thing to remember too is that not all plasma sets are created equal. When I was shopping for the finishing touch to my home theater, I was looking at plasma sets. A Mits 50" that ran about $15k blew away a Hitatchi 50" that went for $9k, just in image quality alone.

However, I ended up going the DLP route anyway due to the fade factor inherent to plasmas.

Sometimes I think people get too wrapped-up with the whole "plasma" idea and the fact that you can hang it on a wall almost like a picture.
 
DNC your are 1000% correct! Its the whole "I got to keep up with the Jones' factor" giving some people the ability just to tell there buddies "hey I have a plasma set".
 
I agree, there's a "got to keep up with the Jones'" factor that gets involved, but for me it was just the term -plasma- that had me practically fixated on getting one. Then I saw a DLP 50" and right there, the entire mistique of PLASMA (like, wow, man ;) ) vanished. I'd been doing 2 years worth of research on various technologies and when I came across DLP, it had the fewest drawbacks of any of the existing technologies on the market at that time, so I went with it and have never regretted it. :)
 
Every current technology has its drawbacks:

1. DLP - Expensive light bulbs every 2k-3k hours. 60,000 Hours is 20 light bulbs, $200 - $300 each is $4000 - $6000 over 60,000 hours. It also suffers from off center viewing brightness issues, and the color wheel causing some to have problems seeing rainbows/getting headaches. Black levels are not very good

2. Plasma - Can have good black levels on high quality sets, but can suffer on the cheap ones. You can burn them in, but is a much smaller risk than it used to be, but if you want one for a computer screen or just to play video games not a good choice. 30k - 60k hours is now pretty much average time to 1/2 brightness of the display. Resolution tends to be more limited than other technologies.

3. LCD Flat Panel - Off angle viewing has brightness issues, especially in the cheap panels. Slow response time shows up in fast moving scenes (they are really improving in this area, probably not a problem for long). The bulbs in the back eventually burn out, but usually last 30k-60k hours. Black levels are bad, especially again in the cheaper sets.

4. Rear Projectection LCD, all the problems of flat panel LCD plus expensive light bulbs going out every 2k-3k hours.

5. Tube sets - great picture, but limited size, big depth and weigh a ton

There is not a perfect technology out there yet. It is all trade offs for everyone to decide which is the best fit for them. It will be a few years before each of the technologies improve to the point of being hard to decide.
 
mike123abc said:
Every current technology has its drawbacks:

True, but the upcoming LED technology looks very promising.

1. DLP - Expensive light bulbs every 2k-3k hours. 60,000 Hours is 20 light bulbs, $200 - $300 each is $4000 - $6000 over 60,000 hours. It also suffers from off center viewing brightness issues, and the color wheel causing some to have problems seeing rainbows/getting headaches. Black levels are not very good

Experiential comment: DLP bulbs are rated at 8k hours, not 2k-3k, and the price is around $250. So, 60,000 hours is actually 8 (rounded up) lamps instead of 20 lamps, for a cost of $2000 for 60,000 rather than $4000-$6000. Off-axis viewing gets a little dimmer around 100-110 degrees off-axis, but is still quite watchable up to about 130-140 degress off-axis. Many stores will give you "free" replacement lamps (1 per year) with the purchase of an extended warranty. I've never had an issue seeing the "rainbow-effect", nor have the 3 other people that I know personally at my work-place who also have DLP RPTV sets. Black levels aren't what they were with my standard 4:3 36" TV, but they aren't that bad and the second-generation DLP sets that I've seen have significantly improved black levels. It's a good alternative to plasma, considering the price of a nice plasma is about 3x the price of an equal image-quality DLP.

2. Plasma - Can have good black levels on high quality sets, but can suffer on the cheap ones. You can burn them in, but is a much smaller risk than it used to be, but if you want one for a computer screen or just to play video games not a good choice. 30k - 60k hours is now pretty much average time to 1/2 brightness of the display. Resolution tends to be more limited than other technologies.

Research and observational comments: The higher quality sets are spectacular to look at, but you'll pay the price for it...> $10,000 for a nice size (50" or larger) screen. Since many people do have some kind of video game system, burn-in is still an issue, especially if you have kids who like to play the games with friends. Resolution tends to be more limited, yes, and the fade issue at around 30k hours is very problematic in lower-priced units.

3. LCD Flat Panel - Off angle viewing has brightness issues, especially in the cheap panels. Slow response time shows up in fast moving scenes (they are really improving in this area, probably not a problem for long). The bulbs in the back eventually burn out, but usually last 30k-60k hours. Black levels are bad, especially again in the cheaper sets.

Off-axis viewing degrades very quickly, as you said, it's worse in low-end units. Pixelization is very bad in fast action scenes. Lamp-life is good, but pixel-burnout still is a big issue. Black levels are poor in general.

4. Rear Projectection LCD, all the problems of flat panel LCD plus expensive light bulbs going out every 2k-3k hours.

Off-axis viewing problems are just as bad as in #3. On-axis brightness is amazing though. Lamp life is 8k hours (same as DLP), so not quite as expensive as you indicated. Pixel burnout is an even greater issue because of the brightness in on-axis viewing - a black rectangle really is noticeable on these sets. 2-3 black rectangles and you want to throw rocks at it. ;) Very annoying.

5. Tube sets - great picture, but limited size, big depth and weigh a ton

Yep, you need 6 people (or a forklift) to move them! Looks great, but the size/weight is a big (no pun intended) drawback.

Standard (3-lamp) RPTV's aren't bad, they're just too huge and they need to be re-aligned at least once a year (if not more often).
 
I look forward to the day of having a feather weight set that is like wall paper costs 20 bucks and is as big you want it... just cut the paper to size! And has super high resolution with no off axis viewing problems or fading...
 
I've read about this kind of technology (not made of paper though ;) ), but we're still 5-7 years from seeing this in consumer applications. The LED technology (http://www.lumileds.com/solutions/solution.cfm?id=10) looks really promising, as I may have said earlier.

Lumiled sets could beat-out plasma and DLP, depending on the market price when they finally hit the streets.
 
I dont think it will ever be that cheap but I can see the day where its paper thin. OLED technology could make that possible with some improvements.
 
SED should be out this fall. It should not put downward price pressure on Plasma for at least a year or more. There are predictions of $1k 42 to 50" HD thin panel sets by Christmas of 2006. If that happened it would completely change the television marketolace. Those sets could be LCD, SED, or Plasma. Probably not OLED or nanotube at this point. In 2 years we'll know.
 
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