Roethlisberger accussed of sexual assult...AGAIN!

[HD MM]

Stiller QB gets cleanser endorsement deal !

 

[cybok0]

And the NFL is going to punish Ben based on HIS confirmation of some of what the DA said. I am not calling him a rapist, but he's put himself into multiple bad situations due to poor judgement, that is why he will be punished.

I will be the first to say he is a idiot for putting himself into that situation again, he needs to grow up but that doesn't deserve 6 game suspension, I can understand 2 but not 6.

 

[cybok0]

You're not that funny, does it take you all day to come up with these dumb jokes?

 

[cybok0]

Let's take these one at a time. How do you know HE is not lying? She immediately reported it to the police.

I don't know and I don't know if she is but think about it, blame Ben and get a big payday.

The did prosecute because they didn't have enough evidence to prosecute. And if you read the police report, there was, to me, enough to prosecute...but they didn't...WHY, listen to the DA and they come this short ---><--- from calling the local police department completely incompetent. AND it sounds like it was HIS legal counsel that went to her to strike a deal. But besides that, if you were to EVER ask any woman if she want the shame of going through a trial where ALL your personal business is out in the open, I am POSITIVE none wanna go through that. Do you know that only 1/3 of actual rapes get reported....ONE THIRD.

You mean they didn't prosecute? Remember the Duke Lacrosse case?

Duke Lacrosse Incident

Going to your comparisons to Vick is apples and oranges. Ask any cop and they will tell you there are PLENTY of folks that are out on the street that they just don't have either enough proof to prosecute or the right proof to prosecute.

It's not apples and oranges, everyone wants him to be treated like Vick.

You are thinking with your heart.

If the man was arrested and found guilty I would be the first to hope he goes away for a long time.

Rey Lewis is a guy that lucked out. He MAY or MAY NOT been involved because they had absolutely no proof on him:

At the trial, the vast majority of testimony was either inconclusive or supported the defense's contention that Lewis acted solely as a peacemaker. ESPN legal analyst Alan J. Baverman said, "as to Ray Lewis, there is no evidence that he assisted anybody in a stabbing or encouraged anybody to do a stabbing which would make him a party to felony murder, malice murder, or felony assault with a knife

Ray Lewis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Believe me when I tell you NO ONE has forgiven him because that gets brough up down here ALL the time.

The rest of the NFL sure has.

 

[cybok0]

For perhaps the first time ever...I totally agree with this guy.

Suspending someone based on he said/she said is a very slippery slope. And if you're going to suspend a football player for being an idiot or a jerk, there will be a long line of players outside Goodell's office waiting for their suspension.


Sandra

 

[Rey]

For perhaps the first time ever...I totally agree with this guy.

Suspending someone based on he said/she said is a very slippery slope. And if you're going to suspend a football player for being an idiot or a jerk, there will be a long line of players outside Goodell's office waiting for their suspension.


Sandra

:up:up:up:up:up:up:up:up

 

[cosmo_kramer]

If Ben feels at all wronged by or disagrees with whatever suspension he gets, he can always appeal....

 

[SandraC]

I agree....but here is the thing. WE are basing our opinions on what we have seen as far as reports from the police department. But I am sure that Goodell will have the LEAGUE's PI doing some investigating too AND reports from both the DA AND the police department. They will have ALOT more info than what we have.

...and they will find the same info that led the DA to NOT press charges.

If they DO find other info...they should bring it back to the DA. The statute of limitations for rape is probably at least six months in Georgia.


Sandra

 

[cosmo_kramer]

This one's real:

 

[meStevo]

NFL Security is not confined to 'reasonable doubt' standards, and we don't know what all Ben has confessed to Rooney and Goodell.

He'll take whatever punishment they decide on, it will be based off of more information none of us will ever see.

Ben was bad, Ben will be punished, everyone will move on unless you're that cop that resigned.

(until Ben does his next stupid thing, the next offseason is only 10 months away!)

 

[Rey]

If Ben feels at all wronged by or disagrees with whatever suspension he gets, he can always appeal....

i think he should still be suspended for being such an idiot but agree with sandra that this will change the way future suspensions will be dealt with. its a slippery slope. either way, for putting the franchise under this very negative spot light twice is worthy of a suspension here.i don't think he will appeal

 

[cosmo_kramer]

i think he should still be suspended for being such an idiot but agree with sandra that this will change the way future suspensions will be dealt with. its a slippery slope. either way, for putting the franchise under this very negative spot light twice is worthy of a suspension here.i don't think he will appeal

I don't think he will appeal either, hence the little winking guy.

I'm not so sure about this changing anything though. Ben's own union is responsible for ratifying Goodell's current personal-conduct policy. Until there's at least a new labor agreement in place the players will probably have to live with it...

 

[HD MM]

i think he should still be suspended for being such an idiot but agree with sandra that this will change the way future suspensions will be dealt with. its a slippery slope. either way, for putting the franchise under this very negative spot light twice is worthy of a suspension here.i don't think he will appeal

It's only a "slippery slope" if he was a first time offender. He's had multiple off the field incidents including but not limited to: drunken intoxication with photo's posted on the internet, motorcycle crashes and MULTIPLE sexual misconduct accusations.

If this was a 1 time deal by Peyton Manning, I can see it being overlooked. The problem with Roethlisberger is that he's always in tabloids and this is not a good thing for the image of his team or the league.

 

[SandraC]

It's only a "slippery slope" if he was a first time offender. He's had multiple off the field incidents including but not limited to: drunken intoxication with photo's posted on the internet, motorcycle crashes and MULTIPLE sexual misconduct accusations.

Think about what we're saying here.

NFL players get drunkenly intoxicated (is there any other kind?) all the time. Unfortunately players get into crashes (and I do not believe he was drunkenly intoxicated at the time of that crash) all the time too...car, motorcycle, boat, Jet-ski, whatever. And anyone can be accused of something, but luckily this isn't Cuba or Iran...there is a burden of proof, which was not met according to the DA. I bet a lot more players fit the 'multiple incident' category here than you think.

And this is your personal 'line in the sand' anyway, not the league's. And you have to admit, if this was a Cleveland athlete your line in the sand may be a little different.

That's my whole point...a suspension here is VERY subjective.


Sandra

 

[SandraC]

i think he should still be suspended for being such an idiot but agree with sandra that this will change the way future suspensions will be dealt with. its a slippery slope. either way, for putting the franchise under this very negative spot light twice is worthy of a suspension here.i don't think he will appeal

I think this could perhaps be a key point. I would not be shocked if Mr. Rooney might have even requested Roethlisberger be suspended, for a multitude of reasons.


Sandra

 

[meStevo]

Likely so they have 3 active QBs for the duration of his suspension, the Steelers have sent a 7th to the Bucs for Byron Leftwich.

 

[Jimbo]

i think he should still be suspended for being such an idiot but agree with sandra that this will change the way future suspensions will be dealt with. its a slippery slope. either way, for putting the franchise under this very negative spot light twice is worthy of a suspension here.i don't think he will appeal

Problem is, YES Ben was wrong and he'll get suspended, but do you think for 1 minute 20 of the 30 teams would not be lined up to sign the guy if the Steeler's decided to get rid of him ?

IF that is the case, there is no way on earth the Steelers should get rid of him.
Other teams have standard too, but they would be willing to take him, so the Steelers should too.

 

[Jimbo]

It's only a "slippery slope" if he was a first time offender. He's had multiple off the field incidents including but not limited to: drunken intoxication with photo's posted on the internet, motorcycle crashes and MULTIPLE sexual misconduct accusations.

If this was a 1 time deal by Peyton Manning, I can see it being overlooked. The problem with Roethlisberger is that he's always in tabloids and this is not a good thing for the image of his team or the league.

The motorcycle incident has absolutely NOTHING to do with this.

 

[Jimbo]

Think about what we're saying here.

NFL players get drunkenly intoxicated (is there any other kind?) all the time. Unfortunately players get into crashes (and I do not believe he was drunkenly intoxicated at the time of that crash) all the time too...car, motorcycle, boat, Jet-ski, whatever. And anyone can be accused of something, but luckily this isn't Cuba or Iran...there is a burden of proof, which was not met according to the DA. I bet a lot more players fit the 'multiple incident' category here than you think.

And this is your personal 'line in the sand' anyway, not the league's. And you have to admit, if this was a Cleveland athlete your line in the sand may be a little different.

That's my whole point...a suspension here is VERY subjective.


Sandra

WOAH .... wait a minute....
Are you saying you believe Ben was drunk when he had his motorcycle accident ?

This is a FIRST, NO ONE has even thought about mentioning this, not the police or the team or the people that were in the accident.

 

[meStevo]

His motorcycle accident is just another example of poor decision making, it's most certainly a factor in the treatment he is getting from the Steelers, but doesn't have any influence over his suspension.

Your previous post should also apply to Santonio Holmes too... they've got a history of dumping expendable players, and they do whatever it takes to keep those who are more valuable.