The Turd Bird may be sold AGAIN!!!!!!

[navychop]

Liberty could be interested in a quick flip. Especially if they have an idea to do a quick value added change to the business. A few judicious sweetheart content or equipment provider contracts could do just that.

 

[jpn]

Yes they can, it happens all the time in business. I see it every day.

Not in this instance. The Liberty acquisition of D* is subject to regulatory approval. Until that approval is granted, Liberty can't do a damned thing with D*.

Also, a 'quick-flip' requires a closed deal. Yes, Liberty can line-up suitors and even discuss what-if's; but they can't execute any of them until after they get regulatory approval to close their deal with News Corp.

 

[talos4]

Great, every time I think I'm out they keep pulling me back in!

Got rid of the Telco 2 yrs. ago for lousy customer service and terrible repair services. They still owe me $42.00 on an overcharge that they admitted to and wouldn't credit me or write a check.

Oh Well, Hello Ma Bell

 

[Jimbo]

I have been an employee of BellSouth for 32 years. Many of us at work speculated that AT&T might buy d* well before this story came out. We knew that one of the sticking points of FCC approval was that the FCC wanted AT&T to commit to providing broadband to all of their customers. Knowing what we know about our dsl capability, we figured that the only way to achieve this in a relatively short amount of time is by satellite. Reading this article strengthens that theory.

Welcome to the"New at&t "

Jimbo

 

[Jimbo]

Again, I believe that AT&T is deeply interested in d* and it has nothing to do with video. It is the only way they can satisfy the FCC's mandate that AT&T give all of their customers access to broadband in a short amount of time.

I highly doubt that at&t is going to buy D* so they can give broadband to people, I certianly hope that they don't expect to give broadband via satellite.

I do believe that they may buy D* in another year or so.
This would be thier way to get a firm hold in the video market that they have wanted to do for quite awhile, unsuccessfully I might add.

Jimbo

 

[charper1]

I agree, if anything, IF AT&T buys it, it would be to hold it as very valuable, money making asset. Not to change it. Heck, if it happens, I would not be surprised that in time, it might even find its way back into the hands of any of its past owners if they happen to hold anything of interest to them.

 

[Jimbo]

Not here I can't!!!

Sure you can.
They have a partnership with E* at the moment.

Jimbo

 

[Jimbo]

D* does not provide satellite broadband. DirectWay & Wildblue do. And not all customers will have a LOS to make this option feasible. They could run a deal to buy the DirectWay business. Or make a deal. No need to buy D* for that, no need to spend gold bullion when a few silver coins will do.

Navy,
Thier objective is to get video in everyones home, I don't know where the broadband idea came from.

See my post up a few from here.

Jimbo

 

[Bulldog]

Why is the FCC stating that AT&T must provide broadband? Isn't that a business decision?

It was part of the deal with FCC to win approval, and it is my understanding that the price for the lowest DSL rate will be @ $19.00 for two years. I guess the present $24.95 will go down to that rate?

 

[Jimbo]

It was part of the deal with FCC to win approval, and it is my understanding that the price for the lowest DSL rate will be @ $19.00 for two years. I guess the present $24.95 will go down to that rate?

Thats interesting because I have not recieved any rate changes for our DSL yet.

They've changed rates around about 3-4 months ago because they did away with the 6 and 12 month commitments, now you can go month to month but rates went up abit.

at&t 's slowest rate is 768, currently running $14.95, 1.5 - 17.95, 3.0 - 24.99-5 and 6.0 - 28.95

I can't see them moving the 768 speed to $ 19.
At least I hope not, because IF that happens, all rates will go up and I will lose alot of sales......
at&t actually SBC was the first ones to bring 1.5 service down to the everyday dial up person, it was 14.95.

Jimbo

 

[scotsmanron]

Sure you can.
They have a partnership with E* at the moment.

Jimbo

AT&T is not available in my area. I've seen rumours that they soon will be but not as of yet.

 

[scotsmanron]

Thats interesting because I have not recieved any rate changes for our DSL yet.

They've changed rates around about 3-4 months ago because they did away with the 6 and 12 month commitments, now you can go month to month but rates went up abit.

at&t 's slowest rate is 768, currently running $14.95, 1.5 - 17.95, 3.0 - 24.99-5 and 6.0 - 28.95

I can't see them moving the 768 speed to $ 19.
At least I hope not, because IF that happens, all rates will go up and I will lose alot of sales......
at&t actually SBC was the first ones to bring 1.5 service down to the everyday dial up person, it was 14.95.

Jimbo

WOW!! I wish I COULD get AT&T. I could have a real phone and 3.0 speed for less than I pay for my cable modem now. These are stupid good rates.

 

[ramcm7]

OK, let's say you are a telco and you buy D*. Where are you going to spend your development money - on your infant-stage FiOS-type service or your newly acquired satellite service?

My company had software from what was a small cutting-edge shop. The little guy was bought by a bigger player with a similar product, but had "big plans" for integration of the two lines. Once bought, our product received little development, while the bigco continued to develop its other product. After a few years our product was obsolete and we had to replace it.

A telco might buy D* just to slow-track its development and drain it of some cash while it develops its own product and then gets rid of the satco once its own original service is more viable. !sadroll

 

[Mike McGann]

The problem with that premise is this:

AT&T or Verizon would gain entry into more homes with D* ownership. I personally think it makes more sense for Verizon, because it could be offered in lieu of FIOS in areas where the build out isn't ready, but offer the same basic programming and packages, including ST, which tends to do better in wealthy areas (where FIOS was launched first).

The programming agreements and customer base are the value for either telco, not the birds. As both have other, arguably better distribution plans on the drawing board, that would be the value for either company.

 

[navychop]

Navy,
Thier objective is to get video in everyones home, I don't know where the broadband idea came from.

Jimbo

I wasn't responding to you. I was responding to Gip. We seem to be in agreement.

 

[Jhon69]

WOW!! I wish I COULD get AT&T. I could have a real phone and 3.0 speed for less than I pay for my cable modem now. These are stupid good rates.

Yes but DSL depends on how far you are from the Hub.The farther you are the more the speed sucks.Cable is hard to beat for fast speeds.

 

[Jimbo]

AT&T is not available in my area. I've seen rumours that they soon will be but not as of yet.

Gotcha, I thught you has the phone service but thought you could not get DSL... I gotcha now.

Jimbo

 

[Jimbo]

OK, let's say you are a telco and you buy D*. Where are you going to spend your development money - on your infant-stage FiOS-type service or your newly acquired satellite service?

My company had software from what was a small cutting-edge shop. The little guy was bought by a bigger player with a similar product, but had "big plans" for integration of the two lines. Once bought, our product received little development, while the bigco continued to develop its other product. After a few years our product was obsolete and we had to replace it.

A telco might buy D* just to slow-track its development and drain it of some cash while it develops its own product and then gets rid of the satco once its own original service is more viable. !sadroll

AT&T is so far behind , when it comes to Video, they will probably drop thier current adventure in video.
IF they have FIOS available, it's in a very small amout of the country. I could see them dropping it and or selling it to someone else.

Jimbo

 

[Jimbo]

Yes but DSL depends on how far you are from the Hub.The farther you are the more the speed sucks.Cable is hard to beat for fast speeds.

Except cable suffers with the quantity of people that log on.
Most areas have what is called Digital Pair Gain systems in most neighborhoods (not all mind you) with the DPG system, that box acts as the Central Office and allows the distance from that point at that time.
Generally, from the DPG box to the subs home is well within range.

IF AT&T decides to buy D*, I doubt that it will be before the middle of next year (08), but you never know...

Jimbo

 

[lovswr]

I don't know if it will happen or not, but I would prefer a big company like AT&T that knows how to do customer service than the way it is right now.

Ok you have got to be kidding. Having worked in the telecommunications industry for the last 10 or 11 years, at&t is one of the worse customer serving companys in the U.S. What they are is ubiquitous & they know it & so does everybody else in our industry.