damaged said:Right, we aren't saying they are bad or evil for this happening, it's just the denial and covering up that insults us.
SOFA KING RIGHT, dude. Totally agree.
damaged said:Right, we aren't saying they are bad or evil for this happening, it's just the denial and covering up that insults us.
charper1 said:Its a no win conversation Robert. They are all regurgitating tech specs from what they read or have been told and will refuse to admit that the two are 99% equal to the eyes. That being said its the service, non-bundled/special price, commitment to the expanding future and the NFL that makes DirecTV the clear winner. I never said I didn't see some need for improvement, but yet they claim its a pure night and day difference nationwide, when it clearly is not. I also admitted that there are a minute handful of local cable offerings that are "tweaked out" or "maxed out" to draw in consumers with a slightly superior product, but that is not the norm, and will change as time/promotions wear out. This thread is yet another "my cable is better" thread that crops up every day, and if THEIR'S is clearly better, then that is fine by me and they can ride with it. Why hang out in the DirecTV threads? Hang out in the cable threads and discuss issues there.
I guess thats why theyve been running experiments on it to try to fix it to no avail. You will find a thread on it at AVS programming forum.DTV TiVo Dealer said:Please forgive me and in all due respect, that doesn't sound right. Discovery HD is stunning with DIRECTV on any HDTV and is superior to any DVD or VCR.
I would suggest calibration of the input that you view DIRECTV on.
-Robert
Funny Ken H. At AVS says he can see a difference between D*'s networkHD and OTAHD. Others can see more of a difference. Probably those viewing on 1080i sets. Theres a thread on AVS.DTV TiVo Dealer said:I am a DIRECTV dealer (so I am bias towards DIRECTV, but always answer honestly) and at my home we subscribe to CableVision and of course, DIRECTV. We also have a very good OTA antenna system so we view HD and SD from Cable, Satellite and OTA. I have compared my local HD channels many times between the 3 HD sources by switching the inputs. On my 60" LG plasma we can not see any difference. I have calibrated all of the inputs so maybe a good calibration would help.
I understand that OTA and some cable MSO's do not compress the signal, however, on most HDTV's our eye can not see any difference. So on a well calibrated TV it boils down OTA and some cable may have full bandwidth and maybe even higher resolution, but it's only specs, not any difference in visual PQ.
I have the highest respect for Sean (in fact, my company set up Sean's DIRECTV HD DVR system) and all of the SatelliteGuys members, you are a very knowledgable folks and I do not dispute what you see, but on my calibrated 60" plasma DIRECTV HD image quality is excellent and looks exactly ike ATSC and CableVision.
As a general rule HDTV's do not do a good job of rendering a SD image. Analog direct view CRT TV's display a far better SD image than any HDTV.
DIRECTV is a better service than just about all cable MSO and in the short, mid and long term DIRECTV will be delivering far more HD content than other multi-channel video providers. In most areas, DIRECTV has better pq, is lower cost per month and has more channels than cable carriers.
-Robert
charper1 said:Its a no win conversation Robert. They are all regurgitating tech specs from what they read or have been told and will refuse to admit that the two are 99% equal to the eyes. That being said its the service, non-bundled/special price, commitment to the expanding future and the NFL that makes DirecTV the clear winner. I never said I didn't see some need for improvement, but yet they claim its a pure night and day difference nationwide, when it clearly is not. I also admitted that there are a minute handful of local cable offerings that are "tweaked out" or "maxed out" to draw in consumers with a slightly superior product, but that is not the norm, and will change as time/promotions wear out. This thread is yet another "my cable is better" thread that crops up every day, and if THEIR'S is clearly better, then that is fine by me and they can ride with it. Why hang out in the DirecTV threads? Hang out in the cable threads and discuss issues there.
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