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Just to be clear, no stations, not just stations on Dish broadcast in 1080P, that includes over the air with an antenna. They are either 480I, 720P or 1080I. You very likely will see little or not difference between 720P or 1080I particularly unless you have a larger than a 55" TV. And when I say little difference, 720P is considered better by some, smoother, in fact some networks broadcast in 720P. Look at lettering when in 720P, it is usually very rounded/smooth with little or no arifacts, 1080I will be a little more jaggy.
Alot depends on the TV scaler. (or the receiver scaler)
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whatchel1 said:
1 major reason is bandwidth that it takes. OTA is only allowed at present to broadcast in a max of 1080i MPEG2. In future it will change for OTA.
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I don't know if the local broadcasters have enough bandwidth to move to 1080p and keep their subchannels watchable.

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Tampa8 said:
Just to be clear, no stations, not just stations on Dish broadcast in 1080P, that includes over the air with an antenna. They are either 480I, 720P or 1080I. You very likely will see little or not difference between 720P or 1080I particularly unless you have a larger than a 55" TV. And when I say little difference, 720P is considered better by some, smoother, in fact some networks broadcast in 720P. Look at lettering when in 720P, it is usually very rounded/smooth with little or no arifacts, 1080I will be a little more jaggy.
Alot depends on the TV scaler. (or the receiver scaler)
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Conversely I think 1080i looks way better than 720p. The p and i are the ways the image is refreshed on your screen. i is for Interlaced that refreshes everyother line 30 times a second. p is for progressive which is 60 times per second, every line. BluRay is 24p, or everyline 24 times per second because that is how movie film is shot, 24fps.

The resolution difference between between 720 and 1080 is huge. 720 is 720x1280 pixels. Whereas 1080 is 1080x1920 pixels.

Also it's a myth that you can only see the difference on bigger TVs. It all depends on how far you sit from your TV. If you are too far away from a 90" television, you can't tell the difference between either resolution. I frequently watch TV on my 27" HD monitor and I can easily tell the difference, because it's only 4 feet away from me.

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This chart helps you figure out what size TV to buy depending on how far you sit from it. Also, many Dish (and every other providers) channels are compressed so you lose true image quality. WIth Blu-Ray you don't have this problem. A TV that can display native 1080p24 will beat any other format you can get.

To me a 1080 image always looks better, be it i or p, because the resolution is so much better. I rue that day when the Patriots play home to and NFC team and I have to watch 720p football on FOX. The only thing worse is ESPN, who (my theory is because of the low resolution) zoom in on Tom Brady and the linemen on EVERY play. You miss 5 yard routes because its out of the camera frame. CBS broadcasts in 1080i are marvelous.

Do a google image search for 720 vs 1080 and you will see the different resolutions.
 
Your TV is converting everything coming in to 1080P, anyway. No, the content is not 1080P, which would be nice, but you are watching the native resolution of your display and watching 1080P although a converted version performed by your TV electronics, and some TV's do this better than others.

Also, keep in mind that many AV Receivers today will up convert to 1080P to your display and some better than most TV's. Some AV receivers do this better than others, but even on my mid-range Onkyo, the difference was notable, as it is with my DVDO Edge. Visitors were saying it looked sharper than last visit (I never told them about the DVDO Edge up-converting to 1080P, they just commented on their own. I've a got a Yamaha yet to install with the killer HQV chip and will have to see if it is all it is said to be.

I can tell you that such AV Receivers and external processors can do a dandy job making SD or crappy internet streaming look pretty darn good compared to most TV's. This is especially noticeable if you have LESS than a flagship HDTV or less than other other high end models. My high-end Sony does an impressive job on its own, so the improvement was noticeable, but a bit more than slight, while my cheap, old, entry level Sharp NEVER did a good job of ANYTHING, but the difference with the DVDO there was QUITE noticeable, and night and day for SD, S-VHS and online content.

Just some ways to get some enjoyment of 1080P from content that is not 1080P source.
 
DishSubLA said:
Your TV is converting everything coming in to 1080P, anyway. No, the content is not 1080P, which would be nice, but you are watching the native resolution of your display and watching 1080P although a converted version performed by your TV electronics, and some TV's do this better than others.

Also, keep in mind that many AV Receivers today will up convert to 1080P to your display and some better than most TV's. Some AV receivers do this better than others, but even on my mid-range Onkyo, the difference was notable, as it is with my DVDO Edge. Visitors were saying it looked sharper than last visit (I never told them about the DVDO Edge up-converting to 1080P, they just commented on their own. I've a got a Yamaha yet to install with the killer HQV chip and will have to see if it is all it is said to be.

I can tell you that such AV Receivers and external processors can do a dandy job making SD or crappy internet streaming look pretty darn good compared to most TV's. This is especially noticeable if you have LESS than a flagship HDTV or less than other other high end models. My high-end Sony does an impressive job on its own, so the improvement was noticeable, but a bit more than slight, while my cheap, old, entry level Sharp NEVER did a good job of ANYTHING, but the difference with the DVDO there was QUITE noticeable, and night and day for SD, S-VHS and online content.

Just some ways to get some enjoyment of 1080P from content that is not 1080P source.
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Thanks BBruin66 I've said that more than once and we keep getting nubies that don't understand. I hope you post helps but who knows.
The Yamaha's do a good job of converting I have one. But you know when it's going into a Panny Plasma most things that have good rez looks good. Low rez there is little help for it no matter what it's running thru.
 
whatchel1 said:
They will go MPEG 4 when and it happens. That will give them what they need for the subs.
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I don't see that happening, not for a long time anyway, as it would make every current tv and tv tuner obsolete again, people would need converter boxes to receive the signal. I guess if the FCC approved and the equipment makers went along with the move to combination mpeg2/4 OTA tuners, they could leave up a low res mpeg2 feed for legacy equipment and use the rest of their bandwidth for mpeg 4
 
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